Noob TIR user q
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Just got my TIR 5 (with free hat:D) and immediately it got me stumbled.
How do i go about affixing it to the top of my 55in lcd? Or should i put in underneath?
Viewing distance about 4 feet.
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Duh - been extra dumb and didn’t notice that rear leg is adjustable. Phew dodged one here.
Machine set up. What’s my next step? What profile should i use? The one included with 4.33 or something else?
Works pretty amazing. What i want at this moment (default profile, speed 2, smoothing 15) is bigger ‘deadzone’ pitch-wise, more head-tilt sens, and amplified z-axis.On the other note v-sync-off tears are pretty inyourface now… Tweaking time.
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I have the global multiplier set at 1 and set the real sensitivities in the game-specific profiles. With a test profile with flat curves that provides ~±180 yaw sensitivity switch to the first person view and adjust the smoothing slider as low as possible that results in being able to keep your head pointed in one spot without too much jitter. Mine is 6.
Creating a profile for a game I start with completely flat curves (green down arrow to 0 and then up). Adjust the level to find the range of motion you want total being aware of any problem zones where the sensors are lost by the camera. The camera view can really help with this. If you find it helpful you can adjust the curve to redistribute the sensitivity but I do this minimally if at all. Some zones like looking down into the cockpit can be coarse areas with high sensitivities but anywhere you might point the HMCS should be as flat as possible for maximum control. In general you want the output range to just cover the necessary range as too twitchy will be hard to use.
Assign titles to favorites and use the favorites menu as the total menu is quite long. Enable, disable, and change the hotkeys as needed. I really only use the center hotkey and rarely pause profile. The precision mode and profile switching is a gimmick. Some people use “exclusive” to use one profile for everything but I like the flexibility to tailor to each title.
Oh and keep a look out for the “Update Titles” notification to update EXE definitions often which appears in the top right part of the window.
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Okay, great info. 2 more qs.
1. F7 Precicion - on or off?
2. Should i use ‘Falcon 4.0’ line for BMS in trackir software? -
1. off - as Frederf said it’s a gimmick. If you set up your TIR properly you will not need to slow it down to make if more precise.
2. up to you - as Frederf said set it up how your prefer. Customise it per software title if you want, use one profile for everything if not. -
No no, what i meant by q2 - in games list there’s Falcon 4.0 and Falcon AF. So if i attach my profile to ‘Falcon 4.0’ it will be used when i start 4.32/33 correct?
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No no, what i meant by q2 - in games list there’s Falcon 4.0 and Falcon AF. So if i attach my profile to ‘Falcon 4.0’ it will be used when i start 4.32/33 correct?
Correct, “Falcon 4.0” is what TIR recognize, not AF.
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You’ll be surprised what titles are recognized for what actual software. The brand new Dirt Rally game is recognized as “Dirt 2.” Just run TIR and the software and check the TIR window to see what title it thinks it is.
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Ok, i’m halfway there. The current problem is: ‘zero’ of 3d cockpit is a bit too high to be TIR ‘zero’ for me. Even with fov on max, i can only see top halves of MFDs. I am used to ‘classic’ centre view with fov set so that in ‘center’ view screen’s bottom is about bottom of MFDs.
I think there was some option in the config. But i spent about 5 hours in front of the monitor already today and feeling hazy - so, perhaps a friendly hand-shortcut may work -
You’ll find a good head position to adopt when pressing re-center that results in the calibration you want.
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Umm, nope. The cockpit ‘zero’ is what deadzones are around. I want some deadzone around my fav view, not the ‘no mfd’ view. I hope i’m being clear this time…. Srry
add: this http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3980381/2 describes it
I want ‘second press of 3’ to be my center…
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?18978-3d-cockpit-view-centre
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Try Yassy’s Profile. it’s a good starting profile TIR.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27837133/Yassy_BMS.rar
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I’m on it… Won’t help this BMS shortcoming sadly
In DCS the 3d cockpit center is correct and includes the mfds - not just hud and icp… Perhaps a simple code patch to bms is possible? I am amazed that it’s not #1 problem already. Sure, many folks have external MFDs and instruments, negating the need for good ‘inclusive’ center view… But not everybody can afford it etc… I knew there’s something too good to be true re: bms+tir… Now i know what. -
Umm, nope. The cockpit ‘zero’ is what deadzones are around. I want some deadzone around my fav view, not the ‘no mfd’ view. I hope i’m being clear this time…. Srry
add: this http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3980381/2 describes it
I want ‘second press of 3’ to be my center…
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?18978-3d-cockpit-view-centre
Don’t use sensitivity notches and deadzones. It’s common to treat the “zero” position as somehow sacred when you start and want to make a sticky spot at that location but it’s unneeded reverence.
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I think i’ll try disabling pitch axis on tir and just wait for the fix to BMS code…
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If you want the default view in BMS to be the pilot looking down into the cockpit you’ll have a long wait, it’s not realistic. One of the key features of the F-16 is the great visibility; pilots talk about feeling like they’re sitting on top of a rocket. If you want to feel like you’re sitting down inside a cockpit with lots of metal around you then the A-10 is indeed going to be more to your liking.
If you want your default view to be more like an A-10 then just tilt your head up slightly then re-centre your TrackIR. When you move your head back to a level position you will be looking down into the cockpit.
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That’s been suggested i think 3 times already itt.
Tell me then, why ‘3’ have 2 views (with TIR disabled)? One is ‘uppity’ and second is what i want. -
I don’t understand you problem. If you are using TIR then looking at your MFD’s is easy … you just look down a bit. Real fighter pilots (and some VR Pilots) keep there head moving constantly scanning the airspace around you. You only go head-down when you really need it - maybe to lock a target and start an intercept or to set the target for a Maverick or LGB delivery but you then fly head-up using the cues on your HUD to prosecute the attack.
Why do you want to lose some out side SA to watch MFD’s all the time?
If you do then Darkman’s suggestion is the best and quickest way to get y the view you want while using TIR. The key shortcuts are designed to help you when you don’t have TIR … hence a glance down to look at your MFD with a ‘3’ key press.
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As mentioned before, the problem is that there is a deadzone around cockpit ‘zero’. Whatever i do i cannot keep stable ‘downglance’ to work with mfds. It either sticks to the ‘zero’ (yassy’s profile) or i have to keep my head superstable to work with mfds… A little deadzone around that area would help tremendously. I will try achieving that with tir software today (introduce a deadzone around -5deg pitch if that even possible) and remove 0deg pitch deadzone completely.
And i prefer night ops. No point in looking at darkness around
Would also love some input re z-axis vs fov. I think z-axis is more realistic, but i see lots of pilots use FOV. Why? -
I really recommend the flattest line but if you really want a notch about an arbitrary point, just build a notch around an arbitrary point. There’s nothing stopping you from shifting your profile graph curve left or right until the shape lines up as you want it.