I doubt in matters but line 24 of av8b.dat are different between 4.37 and 4.36.
But anyway, if curious, just try hovering with the two versions. Take the training AV8+ in the WASP TE and remove the loadout.
Lift to a hover in each version. One is easily controlled. The other has no control at all.
Flys like a dream now. Thanks for the solution!
I went back to 4.36 and the Harrier is easily controlled in hover. And quite responsive. Totally different than 4.37. I tried moving the DAT files to 4.37 but that caused a game crash.
Flys like a dream now. Thanks for the solution!
Very cool! Thanks for figuring it out so quickly.
In the game, clean and 2/3rds gas is light enough to lift to a hover. Which for testing purposes that’s all that matters. It’s axis control, not performance that separates 4.36 and 4.37.
Also, it looks like the mystery has been solved (per the other thread). Some code was deleted while working on another module.
There may be multiple things to complain about but in my case, I am not talking about performance or the ability to sustain altitude or to takeoff or to decelerate quickly to a stop. I am talking simply about the ability to apply any sort of control over pitch, roll or yaw with zero speed over the ground at any weight in calm wind.
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I posted a similar thread in the Technical Support section. Please merge or delete. Thanks!
This thread is a repeat post of one I started in the General Discussion. I am repeating here because I believe that it is a confirmed bug. In 4.37, the Harrier seems to have no bleed pressure to the axis control nozzles. When flown referencing the DED INS display, one can see this clearly as you slow below 30 knots. Faster than that you have very weak control but still some. Slower and control degrades to nil, best observed in yaw. That DAT files between 4.36 and 4.37 are essentially identical but 4.37 does add an AI Max AOA in the “AOA and Sideslip Limits” section, line 24.
The best confirmation is to test the single AV8B+ in the WASP TE with zero loadout and 5000 lbs. 4.36 demonstrates very good controllability and responsiveness where 4.37 has none of either. At speeds above 80 or so, both versions seem close, if not identical. Moving the .dat files from 4.36 to 4.37 and adding the max AI AOA value of +25.000000 (to avoid a CTD) yields a model that is unchanged from the original 4.37.
I doubt in matters but line 24 of av8b.dat are different between 4.37 and 4.36.
But anyway, if curious, just try hovering with the two versions. Take the training AV8+ in the WASP TE and remove the loadout.
Lift to a hover in each version. One is easily controlled. The other has no control at all.
In editing the av8 (dot) dat files I porked my install. Reinstalling now but there is a difference between the two av8b.dat files. It’s line 24 or 25 that reads something like “AOA Max AI” and has a value of +25.000000.
I went back to 4.36 and the Harrier is easily controlled in hover. And quite responsive. Totally different than 4.37. I tried moving the DAT files to 4.37 but that caused a game crash.
It feels to me as if air available for axis control is proportional to airspeed now. At exactly “0”, there is little or no control at all.