X55 worth getting?
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To be honest my hotas set up is pretty basic at the moment. I’ve set the stick up for pickle,gun,wheel brakes,tms,dms,trim and pinkie(although I’m not sure what this does yet) and chaff programme and my throttle for radar elevation and range. AA and AG master modes…air brakes…ecm toggle…uncage…air brakes…external lights…nws…zoom control (although I have track ir)…master arm…and cursor control.
Glad the family enjoyed london too!!
I do have a Android which would be great to get one of the mfds to??
My recommendation is below if you have a 10.1 Android tablet…no need to get mfds. Be sure to use the latest version of the Server and Apk.
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Glad to hear they had a good time in old london town Drac. Gary i’m in tamworth not far from birmingham, sounds like an ideal mapping u got there.
Drac what stick u got? X55? didnt think there would be enough buttons/rotaries to assign everything to the X55 (except for landing gear as u say).
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Another thing what do u se DMS/TMS for? and is there CMS too? what do they stand for?
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Glad to hear they had a good time in old london town Drac. Gary i’m in tamworth not far from birmingham, sounds like an ideal mapping u got there.
Drac what stick u got? X55? didnt think there would be enough buttons/rotaries to assign everything to the X55 (except for landing gear as u say).
I own the X-55. Remember, the HOTAS has 3 Modes…but I only use Mode 1. For Ramp Start, I use the mouse. Once the aircraft is started, I only use the keyboard for Gear Up/Down. Everything else is through the HOTAS and Tablet.
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Ah gary- think the pinkie switch is used to toggle the stage of your trigger. As the X55 has only single stage for trigger so the pinkie when pressed (i think) will toggle the stage of the trigger. Dont think this applies to Falcon BMS as some joysticks’ triggers have 2 stages for guns and rockets, or guided weapons. Not sure about that tho im sure Drac will know.
Like i said if this is the reason for the pinkie switch, you got the pickle button to fire A-A guided and A-G weapons anyway, leaving the trigger for guns.
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Another thing what do u se DMS/TMS for? and is there CMS too? what do they stand for?
Install folder, Docs, Falcon BMS Manuals, BMS-dash1.pdf. CTRL-F, “DMS” or “TMS” or “CMS”. Same process if you have any avionics question
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Right i got it, cheers.
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Hm, looks very interesting. I’ve been looking for a replacement for my more-than-wobbly Cougar that’s slowly dying it seems… I need to retrieve / apply the settings via CCP before the microstick starts working and so on (tried re-flashing without success).
I’ve looked at the x-55 and am wondering if the dual throttle control (that what it looks like from the pics) can be combined into a single engine control? I’d think so, but I’d rather make sure.
Thanks, Uwe
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Yea it does have a dual throttle so if you’re flying a plane with 2 engines you can control throttle for both, but if its just one engine (as in Falcon) then you just have both throttles click in place together so it makes just one, i watched a video on youtube about it the other day. So yea they combine into a single engine throttle control.
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Hey Dracfalcon, when you said you have all controls binded to your HOTAS and tablet…well how do you have controls binded to your tablet exactly? and for those just playing with a ordinary desktop pc like me, can all 3 modes be used on the X55 so as to not have to bind any controls to the keyboard?
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Yea it does have a dual throttle so if you’re flying a plane with 2 engines you can control throttle for both, but if its just one engine (as in Falcon) then you just have both throttles click in place together so it makes just one, i watched a video on youtube about it the other day. So yea they combine into a single engine throttle control.
Yes, no problem. If you get a little more involved with programming you can can also unprogram one of the throttle’s axis. My situation is a bit unique as I have acquired both the -55 and -65. However, all is well as I have made the -55 throttle a switch panel and the left throttle my landing gear handle(by making it a banded control).
But, for basics don’t worry at all. Just set it up like the throttles were one piece. -
Hey Dracfalcon, when you said you have all controls binded to your HOTAS and tablet…well how do you have controls binded to your tablet exactly? and for those just playing with a ordinary desktop pc like me, can all 3 modes be used on the X55 so as to not have to bind any controls to the keyboard?
You can have all your commands programmed to all the buttons in Mode 1 only if you want and still not have to use the keyboard…but will still need to use your mouse. So with two other Modes available, there are all kinds of options you can do to reduce your dependency on the mouse (but most likely not 100%). However, with the Android tablet, I have my MFDs, ICPs, HSI, Air Brakes, ECM, RWR, DED, Autopilot, moving theater maps, etc. That is why I do not have to use the keyboard (except for Gears…my choice) or the mouse (except for Ramp Start).
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Hi so i have my X55 and got it installed, just went into BMS and finding the setup a bit daunting. The list of controls looks endless and the name of some of those controls just looks alien to me. It seems some controls are already automatically binded like TMS,BMS,first trigger detent (which must be trigger for guns)…basically all buttons and hats on the stick are assigned to things i’d have them assigned to, although the left hat (or bowl) on the stick is assigned to POV which i’m guessing is point of view? to pan the cmaera round the cockpit? which i wont be using once i get my Delan clip.
Just went to try the basic handling TE and my plane was all over the place, had no control over it at all, it was like it had a mind of its own…help.
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Plane just seems to go into a stall and i crash…and doesnt seem like my roll and pitch inputs with the stick are having any effect.
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Tried the takeoff TE a minute ago and i just go around in circles at the start of the runway, like its got a mind of its own. The only control i noticed working was i think DMS down which was changing SOI.
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Firstly thing to check is that the stick (not throttle) is set as the controller on the very first setup page. Then make sure nothing is mapped to any trim controls (for now)
Would help if you explain what happens upon the point of rotation. Ideally you want to be able to pull up into a 5 degree claims and it should stabilise at that hands off…no roll or rapid climb or decent detected…
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In advanced settings trim yaw/pitch and roll are set to keyboard. All manual trim controls are mapped to keyboard using shift+alt and something. I have the X55 stick set for controller on the first setup page, though i noticed i can also select the X55 throttle as a separate controller in the controller drop down menu which seems odd.
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Throttle axis in advanced settings is set to keyboard and there are various options to change that to. Obviously i want it set to the X55 throttle, but there are 3 options which are Z Axis, X and Y rotation, and when i change one of those to say Z axis and i come out of it back to the main setup page, well once i go back into advanced settings again the throttle axis has set itself back to keyboard again.
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Thing is i’m pressing nothing and when in the basic handling TE the plane goes into a spin pretty much and i start rapidly descending…and in the takeoff TE (TE training missions) i start off at the start of the runway, i’m pressing nothing and the plane just starts to move sideways and i just go round and round in circles.
And like i said, i’m pressing nothing at all, not pulling on the stick, pressing no buttons or moving the throttle…
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CNS,
Sorry you’re having issues but we’ll get you flying right.
First, I assume you have downloaded the latest drivers from the Saitek site.
Second, in BMS go into settings , on the page that on the right shows the key commands, and on the left set the stick as controller.
Third( and I’m not at my pc so someone back me up if needed), but go into advanced settings. There are three tabs(I think flight,avionics are two of them) . Go through each function, and move the control, you should see the little “graphs” move.
I don’t remember setting the basic controls as being difficult. Most people use Rotary 1 as gain(it’s called range) and rotary 2 as rdr antenna elevation. If you have a set of rudder pedals, then one tip is to click on the reverse button next to the axis. Otherwise your brakes are locked on the Ramp! If you do not have a set of rudders, then leave brakes as keyboard and map a button on the stick for it. I’ve used the button on rotary 2 with success.
When you get to programming functions(TMS,etc) I hope this link will help. http://falcon-online.org/forum/index.php?topic=1931.0.
The people who set up BMS did a LOT of great work with manuals. Look in your install Docs folder. If you want to fly the Viper true to real life, learn TMS, DMS cursor enable, pinky fov, and the override modes(Dogfight and MRM) .
Finally, don’t get frustrated! I can tell you I had more then my share of misadventures getting started. Stick with it, it’s worth it.