X55 worth getting?
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Question 1 - Using your HSI would be helpful.
Pretty sure he’s talking about while he’s still on the ground.
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That is correct…while on the ground.
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That is correct…while on the ground.
I’m not really sure how the HSI will help him locate the right taxiways to take to the right runway.
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I’m not really sure how the HSI will help him locate the right taxiways to take to the right runway.
Tune the HSI to the runway heading…that will give you the general direction of the runway (layout).
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Not the complete answer but studying and knowing where you are on the airport charts is a massive help!!..in docs folder…
Being in front of other flights who are due to take off before but stuck behind you explains your very long wait. ATC won’t clear you until they have gone!!
As someone else explained…time your arrival to the runway carefully…
Gary
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Not the complete answer but studying and knowing where you are on the airport charts is a massive help!!..in docs folder…
Being in front of other flights who are due to take off before but stuck behind you explains your very long wait. ATC won’t clear you until they have gone!!
As someone else explained…time your arrival to the runway carefully…
Gary
Ok i’ll have to work on it and see, and yea before i depart a AB i’ll check which way to go for the runways using that airport chart. So i guess if they say i’m number 6 for departure runway 14 for example….then that means i gota look see who is waiting to take off on that runway and fall in line. Thing is once i request taxi, i should be in line for departure from that point as long as they tell me to taxi. If my take off time is for 8pm, should i not request taxi until say 7.55?
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Well in this ramp start TE i was the flight lead (were 4 aircraft in a diamond shape in the mission screen….the screen with the map of korea with your steerpoints and other info and my aircraft was positioned top). I think the first time i tried i was in the wrong part, think it was a runway exit point for landing aircraft (it wasnt at either end of the runway, more around the middle). The second time i tried i taxi’d to the far left of runway so i was gona be on runway 36 which tower said i had to take off from. I got there, checked the time, still a bit early as take off time in mission screen was 8:00 and it was 7:54 something like that. Then like i said above when asking the tower for clearance at first was told i was number 8 for departure, then number 9. I looked behind my plane and saw others lining up, think they were in my flight but there was some F-117s but think they had landed…and a hawkeye. I’ll try it again its just i have 2 questions.
1. How am i supposed to know which way i go for the runway? the first time i tried i got lost
2. How do i know when i should leave the ramp area to taxi so that i’m in the correct position in order of take off with other flights? when it said i was number 9 for departure i take it that means i have to wait for 8 others to take off first? and when it said this, i was at the front of other aircraft that were behind me, in position to enter the runway…so they wouldnt have been able to take off.- There are lots of great Docs in your install. Dig up your airbase’s diagram, the once on the Ramp go to Satellite view and zoom out if needed
- It’s never taken me more then 5 minutes to get from Ramp to the runway, so I finish of my preflight and taxi 5 minutes before my flight time
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- There are lots of great Docs in your install. Dig up your airbase’s diagram, the once on the Ramp go to Satellite view and zoom out if needed
- It’s never taken me more then 5 minutes to get from Ramp to the runway, so I finish of my preflight and taxi 5 minutes before my flight time
Ok yea so thats it, like i said above if my take off is 8, then taxi at 7.55….unless i dont get clearance to taxi but that wouldnt happen as they should know im due to depart at 8.
So to get clearance to take off at say 8…ramp start then check time, at 7.55 get clearance to taxi…make way to runway (will study the airbase and which way to go for each runway before ramp start in the airport charts folder).
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Ok yea so thats it, like i said above if my take off is 8, then taxi at 7.55….unless i dont get clearance to taxi but that wouldnt happen as they should know im due to depart at 8.
So to get clearance to take off at say 8…ramp start then check time, at 7.55 get clearance to taxi…make way to runway (will study the airbase and which way to go for each runway before ramp start in the airport charts folder).
Popping out now, will try this tomorrow, cheers all.It’s worth noting too, that most (larger) airbases will have signs directing you to the runway in question.
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Ok yea so thats it, like i said above if my take off is 8, then taxi at 7.55….unless i dont get clearance to taxi but that wouldnt happen
Correct, and I’ve never had the tower deny clearance to taxi.
Have fun. Once you get rolling with BMS is when you really start to enjoy it. It’s ruined F4AF for me!:p -
Well in this ramp start TE
Ah yes, the ramp start TE… more crowded than you are likely to find in a campaign mission. WeaponDeliveryPlanner has a new feature that shows the airbase departure schedule if you want to be really tidy about it. And here it is:
Python should slot between Claw and Nightmare so listening for Claw to ask for departure and then 1-2 minutes later following with your own flight should be just fine. It’s a 5 minute window before Nightmare will get ahead of you. To mesh well with AI you should taxi about 5 minutes before takeoff time, longer or shorter depending on the distance, a 1-2 minute wait at the hold short line is normal. Most of the flights takeoff before you and are arriving traffic as you depart.
How to get to (and from) the runway: Always enter and exit the runway from the very ends, taxiway A or E in the case of Kunsan. In the TE00 you start on the ramp between F and B taxiway. Getting to runway 36 is a simple matter of rolling forward a short distance and making a left to follow the taxiway parallel to RWY 36/18 (which I will call Z for reference since it’s unlabeled) south. In general operation it’s also possible to start in the South Loop HASs which is normally associated with taking off RWY 18. The proper path out of that place is to follow the loop clockwise and take F to Z and then along Z to either A or E depending on departure runway. The classic mistake is to miss F and take C which is an old closed runway.
The AI will hold position if you leave the expected path until you rejoin it later. If they follow you every step of the way that’s validation of the route. Taking the wrong route (or going too fast) leaves huge gaps which other planes can taxi into and then you have merged flights and that’s a screw up.
When is possibly more important and difficult than the path. It’s all about keeping your ears open and knowing who is supposed to be in front of you and behind you. If you start up and request taxi as fast as physically possible you absolutely will get to the runway way too early and in front of people leaving first. The fix for that is not to let it happen in the first place. The airport schedule feature of WDP makes it easy but not doing that knowing how long it takes to taxi and adding a minute should be about right. Getting on ATC comms early in the startup lets you clock earlier previous flights.
The radio isn’t a fix for anything. One flight member (usually human lead) calls for departure prior to taxi and that’s it. There’s no request for takeoff. You show up at the runway on time, in the correct order, together, via the correct path, at the hold short line and tower clears you for takeoff 25s prior to your scheduled takeoff time. Anything else is a screw up. If you want to takeoff earlier than your scheduled time then just take the runway, the AI will follow. ATC will not respond to any requests for anything else.
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That WDP is awesome, can that be used for any flight i make in game? for example lets say i start a campaign and i’m in the UI screen with the map and i see the frag order for my FS. I’ve seen what it does although i have yet to do a campaign (for obvious reasons) and that frag order, correct me if i’m wrong, is the ATO for my fighter squadron which is made of a number of packages to achieve a specific goal, for example strike an enemy AB to render it useless. So lets say for that frag order i click to join a TarCAP and all the info is there including take off time. Can i then, using whatever info i need (package number?) go into the WDP to find out the AB’s departure schedule? which would include take off times for the other packages?
One other thing, a HAS…is that a hardened aircraft shelter? that was really well explained, everything above, thanks.
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WDP can be used for campaigns and tactical engagements. I believe “HAS” means Harms Attack System…not 100% though.
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WDP can be used for campaigns and tactical engagements. I believe “HAS” means Harms Attack System…not 100% though.
Well these HAS’s are on the diagram for Kunsan AB that i was looking at, and yea i was just looking into the WDP, saw it in the forums and looked up the site, looks fantastic, do you use it?
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Ok…did not know where you were looking. If you were looking at the weapons screen on your MFD for (i.e., -88 or -45), you will see a HAS there as well. That is what my answer was referring to.
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WDP can be used to open any .tac or .cam file which is practically everything. When you open a campaign save file the very first thing it asks you is what flight by nation>package>flight which is fastest to type in the package number. ATO is theater-wide by the way and there is only one. It’s “the ATO” not “my squadron’s ATO.” But yes, the WDP added a new feature that aggregates all the take off times from all flights and filters them down to just from your airbase around your takeoff time (-25min through the one after you it seems). The report button is in the lower left on the brief/data/coord pages.
Hardened Aircraft Shelter
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WDP can be used to open any .tac or .cam file which is practically everything. When you open a campaign save file the very first thing it asks you is what flight by nation>package>flight which is fastest to type in the package number. ATO is theater-wide by the way and there is only one. It’s “the ATO” not “my squadron’s ATO.” But yes, the WDP added a new feature that aggregates all the take off times from all flights and filters them down to just from your airbase around your takeoff time (-25min through the one after you it seems). The report button is in the lower left on the brief/data/coord pages.
Hardened Aircraft Shelter
Yea thats the one, i remember only a few days ago seeing in the news about the US wants Turkey to commit their jets to the ATO for the strikes in syria against ISIS (in real life that is)….so ATO being what commands all air forces in an operational theater. So in Korea in BMS the ATO would be issued by the USAF high command…i guess? and then in the balkans campaign it would be by the high command of NATO.
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CNS, you’re right that WDP is totally cool.
The procedure is-- On the UI screen stop time(upper right) and note your package number. Alt + Tab drop return to your pc desktop
2)Open WDP ( BTW, before this you should set up your callsign, MFD’s,etc. in WDP). Unlike the tutorials, the current WDP does not have a visible “open mission” button". Just hit the file( I believe) It’s the button right above the theater button. This is done after you have selected the theater, of course. Then, “open mission”. You’ll want to click on Auto Save, then it will take you to the screen you find the package number. WDP will populate the data card, and you print.
One tip-when you click on “auto save”, the window that appears has a drop down box for the file extension. It defaults to .tac(at least mine did) . If flying a campaign, change that to .cam
- On the UI screen stop time(upper right) and note your package number. Alt + Tab drop return to your pc desktop
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I remember someone on here saying that a package is a group of flights that are assigned different missions to achieve a goal, which can be say, strike an enemy airbase. So what they’re saying is a package would consist of a SEAD escort flight, a TarCAP and an OCA strike, the latter being the one that actually strikes the enemy AB. But in the mission schedule when you see a number of flights, each one has its own package number, a few questions…
1.So isnt it just a flight that is referred to as a package? so you’d say that you’re gona fly as part of a 4 ship SEAD escort package? if it was a number of flights involved with achieving a goal, shouldnt they all have the same package number?
2. I’m unsure of some of the mission types in the game. I know most of them, what they are and what you do in them, but one one that i’m unsure of is a DCA strike. I know it stands for defensive counter air but what exactly are they for? i know offensive counter air is a mission where you’re looking to damage the enemies’ ability to launch their own aircraft (usually to strike an AB).I was thinking DCA is just a patrol where you’re defending an AB or anything from an enemy strike…but i thought a BarCAP would be used for that.
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@cns - Just a reminder, the topic of the thread is “X-55 Worth Getting?” Recommend that you search the forum or start a new thread if you are on a different topic. Not trying to be ugly, but you have a lot of questions that do not pertain to the thread topic. Did you ever get TS3 up and running yet?