BMS Key File Help
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Thanks for this great Keyfile generation “tool”.
I’m using the Version which was shipped with BMS 4.33
Now I’m trying to get the Idle-Detent on my Hotas Warthog working. Has anyone managed to get this running without using the TARGET-Software ?
Since this template in the xls is for the uncombined Warthog Controller I’d like to use this.
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I think you should take a look at Morphine’s Profile.
If I’m not mistaken he has solved the Idle Detent function via TARGET.
Not sure, but I would recommend taking a look at it or ask him for hints & clues. -
I own a Warthog myself and I admit I dont see how to make the idle detent work without a TARGET script. Morphine’s solution is in a script indeed and works like a charm, very elegant solution.
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Kolbe,
Why is the idle detent switch different from other switches?
You managed to program other switches to act when moving On to Off, in addition to their Off to On action.
In DCS it works easily without Target with just a simple lua added command for the On to Off action. -
Well, directx buttons can be programmed to have a callback on key release. I use that for all my three way switches.
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Do you know how to add that possibility to the idle detent in the dx generator?
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Do you know how to add that possibility to the idle detent in the dx generator?
SimThrottleIdleDetent
Edit #2:
Check Kolbe’s keyfile generator under the “DX Specifics” tab, then the “Toggle” heading …. Press & Release functionality.
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Agave_Blue,
1. SimThrottleIdleDetent: Isn’t it an “On” action and when assigned to the idle detent switch it works the opposite way?
2. Setting within BMS configuration for idle cut off didn’t work.
3. “Check Kolbe’s keyfile generator under the “DX Specifics” tab, then the “Toggle” heading …. Press & Release functionality”: a very good solution.
I’m trying to avoid toggle switches for their action changes according to where you start a switche’s action and I’m looking for a permanent command for each state of the switch just like the Boat or Laste switches where there are separate commands for On to Off.Thank you though very much for trying to help !
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Agave_Blue,
1. SimThrottleIdleDetent: Isn’t it an “On” action and when assigned to the idle detent switch it works the opposite way?
2. Setting within BMS configuration for idle cut off didn’t work.
3. “Check Kolbe’s keyfile generator under the “DX Specifics” tab, then the “Toggle” heading …. Press & Release functionality”: a very good solution.
I’m trying to avoid toggle switches for their action changes according to where you start a switche’s action and I’m looking for a permanent command for each state of the switch just like the Boat or Laste switches where there are separate commands for On to Off.Thank you though very much for trying to help !
I don’t think of Idle Detent as an ‘on’ or ‘off’ state. It is a transient ‘lift’ in the throttle range of motion …. you either want to ‘lift’ the throttle or you don’t. If you DO want to ‘lift’ the throttle, click the detent. Once ‘clicked’ or ‘released’, the throttle is back to a normal (axis) state.
IOW, it’s not like the detent is either ‘on’/'off … or ‘up’/‘down’ during any meaningful period of time … it is only ‘lifted’ for single moment that the throttle passes the detent.
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Actually the idle detent in the Warthog HOTAS is a switch.
When you move the throttle aft over the detent a switch is turned on.
That switch stays in the On position until you move the throttle forward beyond the detent and the the switch is then turned off.
It’s easy to see it within Windows controllers settings…check it out there and you shall see the light of that switch is on until the throttle is moved back forward.
You are right in the aspect that one side of the detent (forward) is an axis.
The current dx generator treats that switch only in the Off>to>On (eg…moving the throttle back over the detent).
As for what the On state does (momentary or prolonged action) is according to the specific command configuration. -
Well, enabling idle cutoff in the config will make the switch do nothing, and will make the engine start tied to throttle position. No switch involved.
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Agreed.
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Hi Phait I was wondering if you never use the Cursor enable button then how do you slew the radar cursor?
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Hi Phait I was wondering if you never use the Cursor enable button then how do you slew the radar cursor?
Cursor Enable slew the radar cursor?
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Cursor Enable slew the radar cursor?
Well it does actually. Its the same switch. You can press it inwards, or tilt it for slewing.
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Well it does actually. Its the same switch. You can press it inwards, or tilt it for slewing.
I guess I’m just behind the curve. I’m still trying to figure out if this is a keyfile thread, a Warthog thread, or a Cougar thread. I’m still stuck on “New BMS keystroke files”.
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Im gonna go with option all of the above.
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I’m sorry but I think I am not of great help here as I only use Idle Detent in the 3d cockpit rather than axis or DX buttons.
As a Cougar user setting the detent on the axis is a no go, as the Cougar Throttle has no “real” detents. Cutting off the
engine accidently happened too many times…What I have read so far is, that using Idle Detent with the Warthog Throttle is a bit tricky. But Morphine found a good solution.
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As a Cougar user setting the detent on the axis is a no go, as the Cougar Throttle has no “real” detents. Cutting off the
engine accidently happened too many times…It works fine. Just dont pull it past the detent. And if you do, immediately push it up past the detent and you are fine.
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I’ve removed the file download as I fixed some additional things, if anyone needs the X-55 Rhino template for Kolbe’s new Excel key file editor, please send over a PM.