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Avantar,
Thanks, that’s a good idea, more than just the F16 also.Miles
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Speaking from all the members here we want Force Feedback sticks… OK?So when?
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I think the force sensing is the first in priority, than icp…
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Arty,
A joystick is next after the helicopter collective. Force Feedback or Force Sensing? I was talking about Force Sensing with strain gauges. Although I have been experimenting with various brushless motors and controllers for a force feedback base. -
Force sense…
May the Force force you to force it first. :lol:Sent from TapaTalk
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O.K. since Arty says so.
Here is a quick 3d model of what it could look like. Material would be grey PVC to keep cost and machining time down. (same material as magnet holders) It would have its own 32 button USB HID controller built in just like my F22 Pro and TQS conversions.F22 Pro USB Conversion
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Now we r talking.
I don’t see the deadline…
Come on… The production department is running the machines… Marketing has the mockups ready only date and price is missing…
Come on come on we are around the clock here…Sent from TapaTalk
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Wonderfull. Can t wait for this. Just a question. It seems that you will place the force sensors in the vertical plane. Am i correct?
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Hmmm why not a win win just for sensor fixation? Less cost more profit more customers that will not be willing to reprogram the whole thing.
Edit for starters most pistolero’s doers will go for such solution.
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Regarding ideas:
Force Mod
A low cost FBW Force mod for the Cougar (and WartHog) is probably a good place to consider. I own both the Realsimulator FSSB-R1 and Vipercore FCC3 force mods. They are pretty much equal in price ($400), precision and quality. If this can be closely duplicated for 1/2 that price, it would open the force to more Jedi. But i would take a poll at a few sites before investing very far into this.ICP
This is something that is very useful and a productivity enhancemwnt to BMS user and is something once you have it, you wont want to fly without. There are numerous low cost work arounds (G15 or other mappable keypads, helios touch screen), but a F16 ICP is very immersive. Over the years ive used many of these until i bult my own from real parts ($500 and alot of time). Ive also helped a gent in the Netherlands develop a lower cost ($350) 3D printer version. If this could be done for under $200, it might be a winner. But again, id poll to see interest level and commitment level.Heres my USB ICP (right) and Rednecks (left)
Other ideas:
Id like to see an usb version of some kind of desktop panel the reduces the mouse clicking workload:- Slap Switch
- Mechanicals (gear, flaps, hook)
- radio comms
- ramp engine
Its something ill do myself eventually, but i dont have access to the fab toys
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Wonderfull. Can t wait for this. Just a question. It seems that you will place the force sensors in the vertical plane. Am i correct?
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Yes, 4 sensors on the shaft arranged for temperature compensation. This will be my first time working with these type of sensors.
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AV8R,
Thanks for the detailed input. Very impressive ICP, I really like your door hinge as a base. I also like the idea of desktop mechanicals. I am mostly flying VR now, specificly the Huey with the Rift. I still like fixed wing on the monitor and I have been working on my buddies pit and just started mine. So the switches and panels are probably after a Joystick base. I don’t want to get to far ahead of myself. Just want to focus on one thing at a time and deliver. I nice guy in one of the other forums seems to get beat up a lot because he has not got products to market yet. -
Also the idle cut off for the throttle would be a nice addition.
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@Miles,
There was another guy thst did a hall sensor stick and base, think it was called the black mamba. Probably can google it. Good luck on yours. Will be watching the development.Im hoping for a F18 or MiG29 or Spitfire stick grip to go on the Cougar or WartHog base. Been waiting for that since the Cougar came out and their sales ads said they would. One guy in Russia made a Me109 grip and i hve it. So i know this can be done with the right equipment. Ill help you if you go there.
The picture i made below shows the Cougar grip, Me109 grip and a real ww2 kg13 grip.
@Arty,
The TQS and WHog throttles both have idle cutoff zones, and BMS supports an option to cut the engine if the throttle goes to this zone. Did you have something else in mind? -
Would be nice to have a TQS that replaces the throttle arm on the stock TQS with a longer arm, and adds the pinky lever and throttle body adjustment normally associated with going to OFF from IDLE. I suspect this is not the kind of thing that can be adequately done in plastic for a drop in replacement TQS, though. I imagine something like this is what Arty had in mind.
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That Me 109 grip is nice!
What I’d like to see in an F/A-18 grip is a built in extension that puts the paddle switch in the right place - extension/box with paddle/grip - like in the real jet. Solves two problems at once and actually looks the part…can’t stand the ones I’ve seen with the paddle included on the grip - first mod I’d make if I were to get one.
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@AV8R Yes the actual pinky finger metal switch which will release the throttle axis to go a bit back and switch off the engine.
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Hi Colbalt,
I was only aware of the FSSB. How did your hall kit work out.I’ve been waiting for some new gimbals to fit at same time so not as yet fitted but it all looks great stuff thanks. Now with his talk of more affordable force control maybe I will skip the gimbals.
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@AV8R Yes the actual pinky finger metal switch which will release the throttle axis to go a bit back and switch off the engine.
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Like this…
Well,if you can pull off a few bank heists, you might be able to get one of these
http://www.aerotronicsllc.com/f16throttle.htm
Or this one
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well something like this. It could be fixated on the current base no extra large mambo jumbo extensions and HeavyMetal things… the pinky and MilesD magic so when you hold the pinky to release the handle to go further back and perform the idle cut off.
Also when it goes fully back it could press a switch that will be the trigger for the idle cut off and not just the movement of the handle.