HOTAS
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Until they make a move I guess I’m looking for another stick the throttle seems to be ok but the stick is selling for $300 / where the Hotas set is $400 and I just cant do it.
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I think they are soon to release the TWCS:
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4247551/4/Thrustmaster_invite
But since it seems not to be a dual throttle, I think the Warthog will be as close as you get to F-18 as far as Thrustmaster goes. In regard to the F-16 the Cougar is still the #1 in my opinion. If its getting old and starts acting wierd, there’s always the possibillity of modding and/or replacing some of the inner parts.
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I’m already contemplating ways to convert a Warthog throttle to Hornet grips…there are enough switch inputs on the Warthog grips to have several left over, and using a 3D printer (which I hope to have for a Christmas present to myself this year) I should be able to come up with something. The only head-scratcher I have is what to do with all the left over switch inputs and the ones on the throttle base…I suppose I could build a left aux panel and use those inputs…but I think even if I did that I’d have a few leftovers. Anyway, that’s a long-term thought…I still have a Viper pit to complete.
The Cougar TQS holds up way better than the stick, and the TUSBA R2 gives me everything I’d want in converting it to USB. Warthog stick/Cougar TQS is my go-to for a Viper setup. And the CMS->down action on the Warthog stick makes for an excellent shift key.
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Couldn’t agree more! That is exactly my setup and love it. Although the Warthog stick and base is awesome, I found the throttle pretty flimsy by comparison. I sold all the Warthog throttles on Ebay and just kept the sticks.
I’m already contemplating ways to convert a Warthog throttle to Hornet grips…there are enough switch inputs on the Warthog grips to have several left over, and using a 3D printer (which I hope to have for a Christmas present to myself this year) I should be able to come up with something. The only head-scratcher I have is what to do with all the left over switch inputs and the ones on the throttle base…I suppose I could build a left aux panel and use those inputs…but I think even if I did that I’d have a few leftovers. Anyway, that’s a long-term thought…I still have a Viper pit to complete.
The Cougar TQS holds up way better than the stick, and the TUSBA R2 gives me everything I’d want in converting it to USB. Warthog stick/Cougar TQS is my go-to for a Viper setup. And the CMS->down action on the Warthog stick makes for an excellent shift key.
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Also agree. The throttle stalks should have been made of metal, IMO…which leaves me wondering if for a Hornet grip setup I might just make the whole mechanism and just use the PCB and re-hosted guts from the Warthog throttles. That would give me a lot more room to maneuver.
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f-18 throttle has already been done
link from another thread http://www.aerotronicsllc.com/f18throttle.htm
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Ha ha ha yeah, and ask them how much… That stuff is not for the everyday simmer, and probably 20,000 minimum.
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I actually got rid of my Warthog throttle and paired the Warthog stick up with my Cougar TQS. I just found the warthog stick better and more realistic shaped than the Cougar Stick. Along with an RS FSSB3, TUSBA, RUSBA and Slaw Device F-16 pedals, makes for a beautiful setup!
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I have the Warthog stick on my Cougar FSSB-R2 base and TUSBA Cougar TQS with Hall sensor mod and UHMW tape. Nothing can beat it for an F-16 HOTAS.
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“Very inaccurate”??? What’s very inaccurate with it? And contact cleaner does wonders… I spray mine every couple years and its almost 12 years old and still kicking.
I didn’t notice since I tried the WH TQS. Once I changed back to Cougar one and I wondered where the smooth went. Well, some cleaning could help but 8bits are 8bits. I have a hall pot ready to be installed with Arduino adapter.
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I didn’t notice since I tried the WH TQS. Once I changed back to Cougar one and I wondered where the smooth went. Well, some cleaning could help but 8bits are 8bits. I have a hall pot ready to be installed with Arduino adapter.
CheersOh sorry. You wrote inaccurate? I thought you meant with the look and design. There is some differences between the TQS and the real F-16 TQS but I think they did a pretty good job at making it accurate.
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Ha ha ha yeah, and ask them how much… That stuff is not for the everyday simmer, and probably 20,000 minimum.
so that is better, for a non everyday simmer?
gotta pay to play.
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The everyday simmer probably doesnt have a spare twenty thousand dollars to put towards buying new, MIL SPEC gear… I certainly dont.
That on one item comes close to my higher estimates for what my pit will end up costing.
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…crap…I don’t know if that makes me feel better about myself…or worse…!
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I didn’t notice since I tried the WH TQS. Once I changed back to Cougar one and I wondered where the smooth went. Well, some cleaning could help but 8bits are 8bits. I have a hall pot ready to be installed with Arduino adapter.
CheersA TUSBA R2 will get you 12 bit resolution…without the hard work of a conversion. I’ve done both, and have a 12 bit board converted and TUSBA R2 adapted Cougar TQS’s and I’d put either one up against a Hall converted TQS any day. TUSBA is the easy way to go, and you see results.
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so that is better, for a non everyday simmer?
gotta pay to play.
That’s 20,000 USD not 20,000 yens
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A TUSBA R2 will get you 12 bit resolution…without the hard work of a conversion. I’ve done both, and have a 12 bit board converted and TUSBA R2 adapted Cougar TQS’s and I’d put either one up against a Hall converted TQS any day. TUSBA is the easy way to go, and you see results.
Isnt the throttle PCB only reporting 8 bits? Ive not bothered looking into it… I figure the end product is going to be on a different board for me, once I get the long throttle arm it will probably get wired through PoKeys.
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Isnt the throttle PCB only reporting 8 bits? Ive not bothered looking into it… I figure the end product is going to be on a different board for me, once I get the long throttle arm it will probably get wired through PoKeys.
I’m not sure the TQS PCB reports anything but direct analog voltages. All TQS signals go through the stick PCB for output to USB, and that reports 10 bits…if I remember right. But that’s part of what makes it easy to convert the TQS…you just have to give up Foxy, TARGET, etc. because they program the stick PCB - that’s where the Cougar “brains” reside.
I have another TQS that I modded directly with a 12 bit Bodner board for direct USB hookup sometime before the TUSBAs existed - the handling of that one and the TUSBA R2 one are pretty much identical; but I have no idea if the TUSBA interprets or interpolates. I just know it works way better than stock from a handling/feel standpoint.
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Well, I dont use Foxy or Target anyway.
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Me neither!
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Oh sorry. You wrote inaccurate? I thought you meant with the look and design. There is some differences between the TQS and the real F-16 TQS but I think they did a pretty good job at making it accurate.
Well, actually it is pretty different from real F16 TQS. I’m building a full pit myself…
I found more inaccurate Cougar that Warthog TQS. But it is good anyway.
Cheers