Human AWACS and IVC??
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An in-game AWACS feature like F22 Total Air War had/has would indeed be great. Maybe with 4.40?
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That would be pretty awesome, because as a pilot you would have to keep your mission crew alive
But i’m still battling my comms problem. any ideas?
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Hi, another exGCI here. Big problem here is that only TL of each flight appears in 2D screen. It is very easy to defy an human GCI with a wall or column formation.
As long as they don’t fix this (pretty difficult I heard) it’s a no go.
It’s like having invisible contacts all around. I was use to see everything!
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That would be pretty awesome, because as a pilot you would have to keep your mission crew alive
But i’m still battling my comms problem. any ideas?
Well,. back in Global Falcon days, I would fly with a few VP’s. IVC worked back then but was very grainy and not realistic. We would have a human AWAC player using TS. Again, not very realistic, but you would have the AWAC screen/tools available.
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An in-game AWACS feature like F22 Total Air War had/has would indeed be great. Maybe with 4.40?
WHAAAAT?
The next update is 4.40??? I though we would have to go through 4.33, 4.34, 4.35 ect. first! :rofl:
Anyway, It might be a simple transfer back to the 2d AWAC screen when you jump into the E-3, but with IVC access. Seems simple enough, but I have often found that simple suggestions are not so simple.
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Hey Again.
I got it fixed. The reason it didn’t Work was partly because I had “FORCE LOCAL CONTROL” checked, which I read you shouldn’t and when I Started a game I hade IVC channel checked as well in-game, which resulted in the IVC crashing.
But it is now tested and Works.Thanks for all the help.
MIL 602nd “Devils”
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On page 58 on BMS manual it has a good explanation on how to adjust IVC client and make it work outside of BMS. just an example of something I do is create a specific shortcut on my desktop that will allow me to connect to IVC before entering BMS with a specific set of freq for both UHF and VHF and also it allows for me to be able to use the IVC without having BMS as the actuall active window as well. Once you read the info on Page 58 it will help you in what you should need to be able to AWACS easier. Hopes this helps if not let me know and I can try to explain it better.
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I resume this topics because in my group we are using to have Human ATC/AWACS/JTAC but foe some of us it is not possible to use it (i’m one of them).
I state that when i’m in 3D everythings works well, that when i’m in ATC/AWACS/JTAC role i run Falcon in win mode, before i run IVC manually with admin permission, that the correct audio device in selected, that i select IVC win for to speak…
But i can hear the flights but they couldn’t hear me!!
If there is another JTAC in 2D he can hear me so i can hear 2D and 3D but only 2D user can hear me. -
I resume this topics because in my group we are using to have Human ATC/AWACS/JTAC but foe some of us it is not possible to use it (i’m one of them).
I state that when i’m in 3D everythings works well, that when i’m in ATC/AWACS/JTAC role i run Falcon in win mode, before i run IVC manually with admin permission, that the correct audio device in selected, that i select IVC win for to speak…
But i can hear the flights but they couldn’t hear me!!
If there is another JTAC in 2D he can hear me so i can hear 2D and 3D but only 2D user can hear me.All players in 3D have the adjusted IVC.ini file that has this line correct? “outsider=all” (not outsider=seat as default, and the # tag removed in front of the line)?
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All players in 3D have the adjusted IVC.ini file that has this line correct? “outsider=all” (not outsider=seat as default, and the # tag removed in front of the line)?
Otherwise, once in 3D they won’t hear you.Several of us worked with this for some time on FO and never did get it to work right. Seems you always had limited comms going one way or the other, regardless of the INI settings, selected a seat, didn’t select a seat, etc… But what you mention was the closest we came to something kind of working. One of the bigger problems was getting EVERYONE to modify their files.
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Also run ivc as admin.
Also, anytime someone says human awacs, i’m obligated by contract to say… http://www.falconc2.org
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If anyone figures it out, let me know… running as admin, with adjusted outsider setting, even with taking a seat still not having people hear me… I miss 4.32 AWACS
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If anyone figures it out, let me know… running as admin, with adjusted outsider setting, even with taking a seat still not having people hear me… I miss 4.32 AWACS
Every One needs to have outsider all active in their own ivc ini file or it won’t work.
We do it for some years now in the Bvt with succes. We notice for example after updating to u3 tje ivc file gets overwritten again, so then some forget to adjust it again and cant hear ATC/GCI. -
Every One needs to have outsider all active in their own ivc ini file or it won’t work.
We do it for some years now in the Bvt with succes. We notice for example after updating to u3 tje ivc file gets overwritten again, so then some forget to adjust it again and cant hear ATC/GCI.Thanks very much for the answer we will try it. It’s been a small problem for the 8 OSS, so I’m sure this is probably a good fix. If even one player is missing the .ini change, it will fail correct?
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Thanks very much for the answer we will try it. It’s been a small problem for the 8 OSS, so I’m sure this is probably a good fix. If even one player is missing the .ini change, it will fail correct?
In what I have noticed in the past two years: all who have the correct settings in the IVC.ini will hear you even if you are still in 2D and they are in 3D, and all who don’t have the setting correct, will only hear you when you are in 3D with them or when they are with you in 2D together but not when one is in 2D and the other in 3D.
Also make sure it’ set to “all” and not “seat” or “awacs”.
Also ref an earlier note I made at https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?25524-Problem-with-custom-quot-IVC-Client-ini-quot-i-m-lost&p=393458&viewfull=1#post393458 don’t know if it’s stil valid though (haven’t verified in U3) but don’t pic a seat in 2D or for some reason the people in 3D will get comms with LOS/distance degradation as if you were broadcasting from the location & altitude from the plane you took the seat in.In the small manual I made a while a go you might find some pointers too, that’s how I use it: https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?11804-Online-Squadron-Collection-v2-is-out&p=373283&viewfull=1#post373283
However, both step 1 and 3 are incorrect now IIRC. Step 1 says only ATC guy needs outsider=all which isn’t true. And step 3 is taking a seat, which I recommend not doing at all. I stay out of BMS entirely when doing ATC/GCI. -
All players in 3D have the adjusted IVC.ini file that has this line correct? “outsider=all” (not outsider=seat as default, and the # tag removed in front of the line)?
Otherwise, once in 3D they won’t hear you.Thanks but,as reported in the doc, this it seams a filter from a 3D pilot side not for the 2D AWACS operator… but i will try…
Yes i run it as admin.
Freq were set correctly
I tried also to select the nearest flightWe are now in CAS training and some of us take the JTAC role… in my turn we were in three JTAC in 2D and i was the only that the pilots in 3D wasn’t able to hear but i was able to hear them and the other JTAC were able to hear me
so summing:
me -> 3D not working
3D -> me OK
me <-> 2D OKthats it means that 3D pilot are not filtered
the config it looks the same for me and the other JTAC (2D operator) and there are other two pilots in the group with the same problem
pherhaps i’m looking in the wrong side…
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Thanks but,as reported in the doc, this it seams a filter from a 3D pilot side not for the 2D AWACS operator… but i will try…
Are you taking a seat in 2D? In that case, even when all users have outsider=all; they will hear (or not hear) you as if you were in that seat. So say they are on the ground at homebase, and you took seat in an E-3 that is over 200NM away, they won’t or barely be able to hear you because of the distance degradation and LOS implemented now in 4.33
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Yes i did
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Yes i did
Then that might be the problem.
Say all users have outsider=all as it should and you took seat in a plane over 200NM away, they won’t or very badly hear you.
That’s why I never start BMS when I do ATC/GCI.