A word or two about a development team change…
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Regardless of this being a right or wrong scenario a person went against the rest of the group. They knew what was agreed upon when they were let into the community and decided against it anyway. It would be awesome if there was more transparency between the devs and the community but they have chosen to work the way they do and I respect that. I pay nothing for this and get a ton of enjoyment out of it so if that’s the way they want to work the more power to them.
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The now ex-dev wasn’t an outsider, and he decided to show parts of what’s being worked on, so there was at least one in the team that is of the opinion that more transparency wouldn’t hurt anyone. I never got the impression that he was doing it as some sort of rebellion against the dev team, or increasing the size of his e-peen. What started this entire situation was someone asking a question related to his expertise, to which he replied how he had changed things, so as to make sure that the person asking wouldn’t spend (and lose) a massive amount of time and effort on something that would be obsolete the moment 4.34 released.
That outed him as a dev, and after that, in my opinion, his pride in his work, and his mindset that the development shouldn’t necessarily happen behind closed doors (which he was open about from the start), was in a way “taken advantage of” by some, and what started as a source leaking droplets, was eventually manipulated into a torrent…. From my point of view, I honestly don’t know if I can blame them, however. Perhaps it’s too easy or cheap to say that this might not have happened if the dev team had been (a bit) less secretive from the get-go, though in my opinion, it did play a part in why so much attention and interest was paid to it in the first place.Actually, as some bits of information about what’s (not) being worked on for 4.34 or 4.35 have already been publicly shared on this forum, I dare say there are more within the team that lean towards the opinion of sharing stuff while they are still WIP. From my point of view as an outsider, that does come across as a bit of a double standard in who is allowed to share something and who isn’t.
I answered to shisabandit’s post and AFAIK he is not member of the BMS Team. My point was BMS Team knows what is good for the Team.
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Humans Rules and Leaks are all combined, was happening, is happening will be happening.
An institution creates rules for it’s welfare, humans have their opinion and act unrestricted, they are not machines. Institutions reject those that don’t follow rules.
So.Let’s thank the guy for all the years and effort for his contribution on the BMS development.
We’d all hope he continued to follow the rules but since this didn’t happen and he is out of he team for upcoming features media showcase leak.
Now let’s hope that he will stay on the light and keep the faith and continue to contribute on 3d party apps that are so much needed for the community and since he has an inside view of the things he can continue to be a very valuable asset to the community.Let’s see the glass half full and not half empty.
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We’d all hope he continued to follow the rules but since this didn’t happen and he is out of he team for upcoming features media showcase leak.
Now let’s hope that he will stay on the light and keep the faith and continue to contribute on 3d party apps that are so much needed for the community and since he has an inside view of the things he can continue to be a very valuable asset to the community.I’m sorry but that won’t happen. I’m not even supposed to post here so help me understand how I could help in any way anymore. I smell the post delete/account ban coming from a mile away already.
Anyway, everything Falcon/BMS related has been permanently removed from my NAS and computer without hope for recovery, backups and backups of backups included in a moment of what you could call “screw this I’m done”. Hardwares uninstalled/boxed in the attic. I was there for the people, not the game. I have no heart to work on 4.34 once it’s out, it’s been broken so to speak.
Thank you everyone for the good moment along the way. It’s been about 15 years for me and now I’m moving on. You’ll do fine without me.
Peace, love, inity to I and I,
Switch/RastaBenni
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Well greatness is a virtue. Once one aknowledges his mistake he can pursue and don’t give up the fight.
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I gave up already. I have better things to do with my life than to loose my time over a video game I don’t even play with anymore.
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I gave up already. I have better things to do with my life than to loose my time over a video game I don’t even play with anymore.
Well you gotta do what makes you happy. There’s no point spending time in a hobby that you have no interest in.
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We can never know for sure what the next moment will be made of, let alone next day, month, year, might even be sudden death waiting us at the corner. Best we can do is trying our best to follow the flow without listening to our self created interprétations only creating resistances, solidity. Be water my friend, easier said than done, one have to follow a way to no way for this to fully happen.
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My point was BMS Team knows what is good for the Team.
And my point was that inside the team, there are some who are of another opinion than what is currently the policy, as others ( = devs, former devs and/or people close to them) have shared things about 4.34 and 4.35 as well. Some have been more explicit about it than others, sure, but they have shared it nonetheless.
Either the team policy is that everyone can share their own work, everyone can share whatever, everyone has to keep their mouth zipped, or it requires a democratic vote to share something. As I understand it, the team policy is that nobody is allowed to share anything until it’s done, so the fact that one dev was ousted while others can remain in place, at the very least gives the impression there is no consistency in who is and who isn’t allowed to do something.
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And my point was that inside the team, there are some who are of another opinion than what is currently the policy, as others ( = devs, former devs and/or people close to them) have shared things about 4.34 and 4.35 as well. Some have been more explicit about it than others, sure, but they have shared it nonetheless.
Either the team policy is that everyone can share their own work, everyone can share whatever, everyone has to keep their mouth zipped, or it requires a democratic vote to share something. As I understand it, the team policy is that nobody is allowed to share anything until it’s done, so the fact that one dev was ousted while others can remain in place, at the very least gives the impression there is no consistency in who is and who isn’t allowed to do something.
Rgr
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And my point was that inside the team, there are some who are of another opinion than what is currently the policy, as others ( = devs, former devs and/or people close to them) have shared things about 4.34 and 4.35 as well. Some have been more explicit about it than others, sure, but they have shared it nonetheless.
Either the team policy is that everyone can share their own work, everyone can share whatever, everyone has to keep their mouth zipped, or it requires a democratic vote to share something. As I understand it, the team policy is that nobody is allowed to share anything until it’s done, so the fact that one dev was ousted while others can remain in place, at the very least gives the impression there is no consistency in who is and who isn’t allowed to do something.
Valid points, but frankly it’s non of our business. I know you’re just making an observation, but what the team does or doesn’t do is up to them.
Unfortunately I’ve barely been able to fly at all, and haven’t even loaded BMS in 6 months + now for various reasons. I’m really hoping to get back and am really looking forward to see what 4.34 etc. brings. At the end of the day, I’m just grateful anything is shared with us at all, as frankly, they don’t have any obligation to.
Dragging this topic out can only step on peoples toes…
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And my point was that inside the team, there are some who are of another opinion than what is currently the policy, as others ( = devs, former devs and/or people close to them) have shared things about 4.34 and 4.35 as well. Some have been more explicit about it than others, sure, but they have shared it nonetheless.
Either the team policy is that everyone can share their own work, everyone can share whatever, everyone has to keep their mouth zipped, or it requires a democratic vote to share something. As I understand it, the team policy is that nobody is allowed to share anything until it’s done, so the fact that one dev was ousted while others can remain in place, at the very least gives the impression there is no consistency in who is and who isn’t allowed to do something.
There is nothing democratic about BMS. It’s management, developers, beta-testers. You are coder, you become part of management. You are not, you are just a regular member. That’s the way it has always been and they are too obtuse to change anything about that. It is ok to show WIP of models, it is not ok to show WIP of code. Regardless what Boxer might said, that’s the way it is. Another problem regarding what I teased with is it was not my work, and I recognise it was not mine to share either way.
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Okay guys I think all what should have been said, has been said and it’s time to close this discussion.
IMHO it shouldn’t even be open to debate anyway !!