Modelling Organisation
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Dave just to be sure… you really meant 30.000 triangles not polygons? Because we’ve been talking about polygons all the time 30.000 triangles would be 15.000 polygons!
Yes I do mean triangles. Polygons can have many sides and vertices and as such make it difficult to define a useful value.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygon
My Tornado was around 15k triangles so 30k should deliver something very nice.
Regards
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What are the polycount limits for lower-level LODs?
Cheers,
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Usually every LOD should cut the polycount by half…round about!
Thanks for pointing that out again Dave!
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Again, for information, here are the data for the Mirage 2000-D LODs
LOD0 : 30413 triangles :
- 27579 x ptype 9 –> use as many ptype 9 triangles as possible
- 16 x ptype 13
- 160 x ptype 20
- 574 x ptype 21
- 2084 x ptype 25
LOD 1 drops to around 6000 tris at 100ft
LOD 2 : 700 tris at 500ft and you hardly notice it
LOD 3 : 70 tris at 2000ft
LOD 4 : a single pixelIf you stick to that, there shouldn’t be any problem and LOD levels will be unnoticed.
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Wavey: is there anyway you can prepare a guide for the BMS wiki (bmswiki.com) on how to import models into the game? It would greatly speed up things.
I would be more inclined to help contribute models to BMS if I knew how to see them and test them in game.
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Ok, i have started with the Mig-19, at this time i have done the fuselage. As soon i have it more complete i will open a new thread and upload some Renders
Salu2!!
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Ok, i have started with the Mig-19, at this time i have done the fuselage. As soon i have it more complete i will open a new thread and upload some Renders
Salu2!!
Thanks you, looking forward to the renders.
Regards
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What about the Red Heavys?
Tu-95, Tu-16, Tu-22, Il-74/76/78, etc…
They could need an update too, no? -
What about the Red Heavys?
Tu-95, Tu-16, Tu-22, Il-74/76/78, etc…
They could need an update too, no?IMHO except Tu-16/H-6 (which variant exactly?) and Il-76/A-50 they are not important, because they have 0 role in campaigns and anti naval warfare cannot be modedel. We do not have radar guided AG missile, ships cannot engage AS/AG missiles but we have bubble issue… Their jammer have the same effectivness as small fighers, ect.
Form my ascpet at least two (three) different MiG-21 model should get very, very high priority.
- MiG-21PF/PFM, one wing HP on each wings. AA armament is only 2xR-3S (AA-2A) ir guided missile, without internal gun.
- MiG-21MF, two wing HPs on each wings. AA armament in only 4xR-3S (AA-2A), internal gun with 200 rounds. Only very limited qty. of Soviet MF could use R-3R (AA-2C), but this should not be modeled.
- MiG-21bis, if you wish save time you can use MF’s model or MF can use 3D model of bis. There were only slight differences between two AC. (There was more than one type of bis, bisAP-1 and and bis-AP2 have more antennas because of advanced naviagtional system) All bis had better radar, than other version. It had R-13M (AA-2-2), nitrogen coolded IR missile, R-3R (AA-2C) SARH and R-60(M) (AA-8) IR missiles. On outher wing HP in could carry paior of R-60s or 490 drop tanks. (Drop tanks were rarely used on wing HPs.) Gun ammo capacity was increased to 250.
These models, independent DB entries and unique dat fles (FM) are required for each subvariant to model the different versions with different capabilites.
Next AC family on red side is MiG-23. At least three different should be in DB to model the differencies concerning on different main parameters. (Empty weight, fuel qty., thrust, high AoA performance, weapons and radar)
- MiG-23MF
- MIG-23ML
- MiG-23MLD
RBK-250 should have size correction as I can remember.
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What about the Red Heavys?
Tu-95, Tu-16, Tu-22, Il-74/76/78, etc…
They could need an update too, no?The original list posted was in priority where the most seen aircraft in a campaign were given higher priority.
When Those are sorted I will start to expand the list. In the past people have modelled their favourite aircraft instead of the ones that are actually used in a campaign, we are trying to do it differently this time.
Regards
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The original list posted was in priority where the most seen aircraft in a campaign were given higher priority.
Good apspect, but in this case I do not understand why is on the list the B-1.
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I think that the heavies all require some attention. The B-52 will probably be operational longer than any of the current active fighters, including the F-22. The B-1 and the Chinese/Russian heavies will become interesting when a hitbox are included on the cruise missiles.
Then there are all the missing planes. On the south side the TA-50/T-50 is operational in numbers, and we are also missing the P-3 Orion with derivatives. Then there is the different Boeing 737’s, with the AWACS and the P-8 Poseidon. The Russian Tu-22 M3 would also be nice, and some passenger planes/business jets for some cool TE scenarios.
I really enjoy the art you 3D wizards are producing. It’s hard to catch it in the merge with a M-23, but I really have enjoyed Jan Haas’ C-130 crew and their cockpit work while holding on the ramp. Life on the air bases, makes things so much nicer.
Thx to all of you !!
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Would it be possible to add a column to those tables for a link to the model Progress thread ?
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Somebody has interest to build choppers? There are only these in the TacRef:
When I made the lists in the first post I chose them based on how prevalent they are in the standard campaigns. It appears you have just listed all of the helicopters. Which of these are used regularly in the campaigns? I wouldn’t like someone to start building a Lynx for example when a future database tidy may remove things that are not needed.
Regards
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Hi all,
I would like to get involved in skins SQN, Anniversary and Custom, but need a tutorial on how to do it and software that is free to download that will enable me to create and hand over to BMS.I don’t know anything about this so would need help getting started can someone create a tutorial and make it a sticky for other members to get involved.
I have some good idea’s especially for those that love “Formation and Aerobatic Squads”, like myself.
**Regards,
TAGMAN**
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Long time no update, Dave mind bringing the list up2date? Consider my BMP1 put on halt right now… think i would have to remodel it from scratch
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If the list is brought up to date I’d be interested in seeing which models were still outstanding and I might lend a hand in getting some of the smaller stuff done.