FPS - any advice?
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Hi all,
Just wanted some input for BMS 4.34. Recently built a system with the following:
Win 10 home
CPU: Ryzen 2600
GPU: Aorus RX 580 8gb
RAM : 8gb Corsair 2666 (2 x 4gb)
Mobo: B450M DS3HAll drivers current etc.
I am hitting between 35-60 fps with settings dialled down across TEs and Campaigns. I’ve watched a few instructional videos for BMS to adjust the most common settings for better FPS performance.
Based on your detailed knowledge on here, can anyone confirm that the FPS range is about what I should expect for the build investment here? Hopefully a few people have AMD builds may have experience on this and anything that might help. I was hoping to be hitting 70+.
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
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Screen resolution?
Look at the hotlist the performance section.
Go 16gb, also faster ram might help a bit.
Overclock the cpu.
In total you might gain 5-10 fps.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T818A using Tapatalk
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What resolution are you using? And when you measure your FPS, is that with the stock KTO theatre, and in TE or campaign?
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Vsync off to get more than 60FPS, but you might have tearing issues.
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Many thanks for all your responses.
The resolution is 1920x1080 75hz. I have Vsync off in addition to mulitisampling.
I have used the TEs within Korea and the campaign has been Balkans. Is it likely the FPS draw is specific to Balkans?
One other thing is that my monitor uses Freesync. Should this be switched off?
I had to save on the RAM but could change this…Will look at the O/C but am on a stock cooler.
All responses appreciated.
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All responses appreciated.
With 60 you are fine.
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Window mode on no on full screen. Low res clouds ,More ram won’t do anything for fps
and play with config editor see here https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?29750-Good-Quality-and-Good-Performance-Guide-NVIDIA it’s for nvidia but doesn’t matter -
Turn off shadow mapping in config. In some campaign missions at the start on the ground there can be a lot of aircraft which kills the frame rate. Worked for me getting above 60 on the ground in campaign even with a heap of planes.
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Turn off shadow mapping in config. In some campaign missions at the start on the ground there can be a lot of aircraft which kills the frame rate. Worked for me getting above 60 on the ground in campaign even with a heap of planes.
Thanks. Have implemented this. Also been looking at the settings for the GPU clocking. Last test had me upto 75 airborne so will continue tweaking. Been a bit time pressured so you guys have all helped.
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Hi Lodestar
I just upgraded from a R5 1600 to a 3600x & use a RX480 from MSI, its a Gaming X 8Gig card that benefits nothing from OCing attempts.
My falcon config is left fully enabled, except things like Radar scale down, I don’t do anything to cut back on Visual quality except to use low levels of AA in Falcon setup page.
AND I display @ QHD 2560x1440. With a second monitor displaying MFDs + a bunch of instruments.
If I,m getting better then 30fps I usually happy.
Run the Benchmark 001 TE in your Saved Tab. Just sit there in normal view and watch or use Fraps to gather your Avg FPS.
I am more concerned about bad Frame times producing the effect of Stutter, witch has ,for me, improved with the latest chipset drivers and this new CPU.
This is not a First Person Shooter.
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I recommend getting more ram too in first place. It’s relatively cheap upgrade to you system.
Are you running tir and vac programs too when you fly?
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Since u are above 35fps u r just fine.
I had 25 for years. No problem at all.I believe your cpu is holding you back.
U can run log applications that measure cpu and gpu at the same time. There then from the log file you can spot the reason easily.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T818A using Tapatalk
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Since u are above 35fps u r just fine.
I had 25 for years. No problem at all.I believe your cpu is holding you back.
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So you want him to ditch a “one year old rig” and what ??
And go with Intel ? New Mobo CPU and ram too ?
In any circumstance there is all ways some thing “holding you back”
But I do agree, there is nothing wrong with his FPS, as it is now.
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Nope.
Overclock it.
Buying new cpu or whatever to run falcon in 1080 its a waste of money.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T818A using Tapatalk
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Hi
I am hitting between 35-60 fps with settings dialled down across TEs and Campaigns. I’ve watched a few instructional videos for BMS to adjust the most common settings for better FPS performance.
A couple of things/suggestions:
1. Get your numbers straight. I mean specifically that 35-60 are very different numbers
2. If you want to know how your GPU performs in BMS - Test in an empty TE. From my experience - Empty TEs are GPU bounded, campaign missions may be CPU bounded at some areas (e.g near the FLOT)
3. I don’t think more RAM will help you. You can use task manager or better Process explorer to know exactly how much RAM your app is using. BMS IIRC shouldn’t use more than ~4GB maximum currently, so unless you have anything heavy running at the same time, 8GB RAM should be enough for you to run BMS.
4. While empty TEs are GPU bounded mostly, still your CPU may have an effect as the CPU is the one pushing commands to the GPU. So if your CPU is slow, especially if it’s single core speed is slow, compared to the strongest/fastest CPUs around, then you may see a difference.
Its been a long time since I ran 4.34, but with the closest equivalent version I have, with my system (9700K at stock speed and GTX-1060 3GB) in an empty TE I get ~75 FPS average with all settings highest and Multi-sampling at x7 (Or at least the equivalent). Your GPU as far as I’ve seen should be ~same performance as 1060 (And no, the extra 5GB it has over mine doesn’t make much of a difference for the BMS case).
So, if you get ~60 average in an empty TE, then it could be just the usual - “BMS likes Nvidia cards better”, while other game/sim may be opposite. Don’t waste too much time if you are getting ~60 in an empty TE.
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up your RAM to 16, it helps reduce bottle necking of racecourses. Your core system is good.
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@Sgt_Fresh:
up your RAM to 16, it helps reduce bottle necking of racecourses. Your core system is good.
Your right Sir Fresh, 8Gig is on the low side, 16GB is the new 8.
And Ryzen loves Fast Ram. 3200 or as close as you can. Let me go see if I can prove the point.
BRB
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Hi
A couple of things/suggestions:
1. Get your numbers straight. I mean specifically that 35-60 are very different numbers
2. If you want to know how your GPU performs in BMS - Test in an empty TE. From my experience - Empty TEs are GPU bounded, campaign missions may be CPU bounded at some areas (e.g near the FLOT)
3. I don’t think more RAM will help you. You can use task manager or better Process explorer to know exactly how much RAM your app is using. BMS IIRC shouldn’t use more than ~4GB maximum currently, so unless you have anything heavy running at the same time, 8GB RAM should be enough for you to run BMS.
4. While empty TEs are GPU bounded mostly, still your CPU may have an effect as the CPU is the one pushing commands to the GPU. So if your CPU is slow, especially if it’s single core speed is slow, compared to the strongest/fastest CPUs around, then you may see a difference.
Its been a long time since I ran 4.34, but with the closest equivalent version I have, with my system (9700K at stock speed and GTX-1060 3GB) in an empty TE I get ~75 FPS average with all settings highest and Multi-sampling at x7 (Or at least the equivalent). Your GPU as far as I’ve seen should be ~same performance as 1060 (And no, the extra 5GB it has over mine doesn’t make much of a difference for the BMS case).
So, if you get ~60 average in an empty TE, then it could be just the usual - “BMS likes Nvidia cards better”, while other game/sim may be opposite. Don’t waste too much time if you are getting ~60 in an empty TE.
Thanks for the detailed response. The TEs have shown the best fps performance around 50-60, but in campaign I have been locked around 35-40. My main things has been to establish what kind of performance I should be expecting with that build. Not running anything heavy in addition to BMS.
I will continue to experiment with settings and the possibility of more RAM (opinion is split on this though). It has been my first build so has been a steep learning curve in terms of components and setup.
Again, thanks to all who have taken the time to respond
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Your right Sir Fresh, 8Gig is on the low side, 16GB is the new 8.
And Ryzen loves Fast Ram. 3200 or as close as you can. Let me go see if I can prove the point.
BRB
Using 00 Benchmark TE (Bad weather test) so mainly Graphics load:
@2133 = 35.288fps
@2400 = 35.25
@2666 = 36.372
@3200 = 36.8
@3333 = 36.799fps.SO marginal improvement , However this new R7 3600x I now have has 16GB of onboard cache, so expect better numbers for lesser CPUs.
If I have some time tomorrow I will use a TE with a fair bit of AI activity. (400 plus AI entities in the bubble)
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You mean r5 3600x?
I searched for r7 3600x and nothing came up.
What vga do you use? Those results are not so great.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T818A using Tapatalk