F-104J / F-104DJ / F-104 ASA/M / F-104C / F-104G /
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APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE…!!! :bdance:
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Have just ran through 7 x F-104G and 6 x F-104S variants that people had done for Strike Fighters because presumably there is no way they could have missed that weird centerline bomb loadout……and found it in one only. The Aeritalia built F-104S for Turkey and where did they get it from? A diagram in Claudios Aeritalia F-104S booklet…so none the wiser unfortunately.
Italian 1996 F-104S manual shows A-A loadouts only so no help.
I can put out a message at Combat Ace to see if anyone knows.
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As far as the fuselage HP, I can only find reference to regular bomb-carriage on the AMI S-variants other than B28’s carried on the C centerline. I cannot find reference to Bullpup carriage at all. I referenced Janes AWA 1974,1981 and 1995, NIG World Aviation 1998 and Joe Bauer’s AirVectors.
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Have just ran through 7 x F-104G and 6 x F-104S variants that people had done for Strike Fighters because presumably there is no way they could have missed that weird centerline bomb loadout……and found it in one only. The Aeritalia built F-104S for Turkey and where did they get it from? A diagram in Claudios Aeritalia F-104S booklet…so none the wiser unfortunately.
Italian 1996 F-104S manual shows A-A loadouts only so no help.
I can put out a message at Combat Ace to see if anyone knows.
As far as the fuselage HP, I can only find reference to regular bomb-carriage on the AMI S-variants other than B28’s carried on the C centerline. I cannot find reference to Bullpup carriage at all. I referenced Janes AWA 1974,1981 and 1995, NIG World Aviation 1998 and Joe Bauer’s AirVectors.
Hi buddies,
thank you very much for your feedbacks !
It’s really precious pieces of information. We are still making some checkings about the topic, but everythings looks like German F-104G can’t use bombs on lateral frontside hardpoints.
Thank you very much !
Radium
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Given that the “Gustav” Starfighter [joke] could carry the AS-30, would they have even bothered w/ the AGM-12?
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Given that the “Gustav” Starfighter [joke] could carry the AS-30, would they have even bothered w/ the AGM-12?
Well… Technologies are rather different… It’s like saying that Rafale can use AIM-9X because it uses MICA IR… A bit quick isn’t it ?
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That’s kinda my point: the technologies are not different. The AS.30 was an MCLOS guided missile that worked almost exactly the same as an AGM-12 and was roughly in between the size and performance of the AGM-12B and C variants. The laser guided variant didn’t go into service until 1985… Thus, with such a similar weapon already kitted to the G, would they have also deployed the AGM-12? Mind you, I’m not trying to pick a fight, just posing a point for discussion.
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That’s kinda my point: the technologies are not different. The AS.30 was an MCLOS guided missile that worked almost exactly the same as an AGM-12 and was roughly in between the size and performance of the AGM-12B and C variants. The laser guided variant didn’t go into service until 1985… Thus, with such a similar weapon already kitted to the G, would they have also deployed the AGM-12? Mind you, I’m not trying to pick a fight, just posing a point for discussion.
I think it’s like Apple and Microsoft : it’s not because it uses technologies that it is compatible…
I’d like to get at least a real life picture of the assembly before doing something !
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just a thought - it would be great to have cockpitwing model for new BMS ac.
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just a thought - it would be great to have cockpitwing model for new BMS ac.
Maybe…
Some crazy Starfighter payloads trials… Wonder if only one was ever tested inflight !
Cheers,
Radium
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What country are these zippers from?
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Deutschland !
That means that BL22 (the standard AIM-9 fuselage pylon for F-104S/ASA) and the BL104 (external wing pylon I’ve never seen before out of F-104S) can also be used on F-104G…
isn’t it a good reason to add them to BMS DB ? -
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Photo name has BL-755 in it so might be that ?
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I’ve always wondered: what’s with the orange fuel tanks? What was the point of the cammo if you have a big dayglo orange bit hanging off the wingtips?
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Please ensure for such an effect behind!