Throttle axis seems to be impacting all other axes in throttle handle
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Hi,
recently I have changed few parts in my PC and I am still working on making my PC great again!Unfortunatelly I have a problem with my Cougar - initially I thought it is poorly (auto)calibrated cause I am getting something like 0-63%. Worse, it seems that main throttle axis impacts all other axes as well! I mean when I am increasing Z-axis I see that both S1 and XR (ANT ELEV and RANGE) are being increased as well and to the exacly value (58774/89.68%). Radar cursors are also impacted but due to their nature it is hard to tell how much.
It is very strange and this is the first time I see something like that. Have you exprienced similiar error?
What I have tried:
- reconnecting,
- connecting to different USB port,
- reinstalling,
- reflashing.
Nothing.
Kind regards,
sunrrrise -
I saw behavior like this when I was rewiring my throttle. In my case, it was caused by some loose connections and shorts. Did your HOTAS get wet?
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Woah, someone replied No, it is hardly possible, it was still sitting in my simpit. I have found that I am able to calibrate it with TM calibration tool and then main axis has full range (however center is a little bit off), but I am unable to calibrate cursor axes. What is strange it looks like main axis is impacting other axes while being not impacted by those other axes. Strange, isn’t it?
I have also found that electrically all connections are OK, I used multimeter to check that.
So it is something with the chip/EPROM?
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Did you open the throttle and removed the connector on the PCB?
That female connector is 2 pin larger than the male on the PCB and it is VERY easy to reconnect it wrongly. That usually creates the symptom you’re reporting. -
Hmm… for sure I have disconnected it recently (you mean in TQS box, not joystick one?), but the problem with axes appeared just after I had replaced mobo/CPU/RAM and reinstalled OS, not after opening it. Then I found I have a problem with Cougar… anyway, I am going to open it again today and check all the cables and connections one more time.
In the worst case scenario I will replace all electronics with 2 MMJoy2+ProMicros combo.
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wAit!! … I mean , slow down with opening… Yes symptoms are strange , like a loose ground or something … and AFAIK, I’ve seen that ~ 2013…
I don’t remember what I did in correct order … but yes, it involved disconnecting / reconnecting from computer, TQS from stick, clearing eeprom with just stick (hold trigger TG2 when connecting to usb) , then “downloading” eeprom to stick !, just stick , as I was afraid for that “dead throttle” problem … (but later I’ve found I have late stick and can flash with trottle connected)
-removing and deleting device and drivers - just from device manager …(not uninstalling foxy and drivers) just re-install driver package (vista x64 ver)
- reconnect everything , update eeprom to stick , install stick (TM in/out) drivers ,… recalibrate manual
…but I didn’t have to dissasemble the stick … well i did that, close to panicking, to check for loose wires , but there were none
… and then it magically worked like nothing happened … damn
plz report back
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I had it with pinched wire after opening and closing. Its easy to do.
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Nope, everything was and is fine from electric point of view. What a piece of junk, I am 99% it is because SW/FW, not hardware. Anyway, I was going to modify anyway, it will probably sooner than later then.
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Please share your progress on this when you can. I am eager to do this also! Tumbler31 is working on a 3D printed version of this for the plastic TQS, I believe.
I was able to handle the USB conversion with ProMicro and MMjoy2, but I don’t have a machine shop for prototyping hardware like this… yet.
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Go to your game controller in windows devices and printers in the control panel. Right-click then game controller settings. Select your throttle/stick then properties. Look at the test window. If it doesn’t show the axis and buttons, then you need to remove the device from windows, disconnect the USB cable and reconnect. Let Windows install the device. Then the axis and buttons should all appear back in the game controller settings and show. Windows will have remapped the axis range to the full DX range. I had this problem with my TUSBA throttle. I expect my solution will also work for you as it is a Windows problem rather than your stick/throttle. I put a thread up last night about this with images.
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I have three Cougar TQS’s, one of which was exhibiting similar issues as you describe below - I ended up replacing the ANT ELEV pot (for this and reasons of a weak center detent) and that actually cured all of it’s problems straight away. MMV.