Stick Sensitivity
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LOlā¦:D
Just to avoid confusion, I am over the stage to doubt the FM, I know they are good. Yet something in my already optimized joystick interface, or maybe āthe travel distanceā of my commands, is a tad to slow.
As always, thanks for feedbackā¦atm my brain travel distance needs a feedback rest, from FF to BMS to IL-2ā¦ahemā¦tooāmuch ā¦ over the past days I modded or checked all those 3ā¦:D
Tom
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I have the same issue with my X65F
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Thanks for confirming Iām not paranoid.
Cheers
Tom
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I use both X-52 and Cougar HOTAS and I had the issue of the stick being to sensitive in the center position. then I got to thinking, all sticks have some kind of loose play in that position and what that causes is, that when you put your hand on the stick it will move and this will be read as an axis change and the plane will react.
The way I found to overcome this slack in the stick is to increase the deadzone slightly to eliminate this effect. Donāt try and change the curves or any other stuff you can screw up on your stick. Keep sticking to the basics.
Since this simple adjustment I hardly have to trim anymore and the aircraft is stable.
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it seems like 52 is nonlinear,and u can modify it to linear:
http://www.berkuts.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=142 -
For Logitech users of less complex sticks like the 3D Pro or Ex Digital 3D, I might be having a clue how to increase stick sensitivity. Today I tested an ancient yet effective profiler (in Win Xp 32 Bit) which is working qzite ok and gives more power.
Aka faster rolls and turns.
I will post it if it works in a couple of weeks, incl. link.
You can increase saturation (or decrease) from 50% default to 100%, which seems to work on top of the BMS setting when activated.Thatās one of my axis e.g.
I so wish the software does not bust my stickā¦
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PS Sorry for eventual typos, so tired. To sum it up, seems to work, only needs to stand the tests.
Good thing is I can leave my other sims unprogrammed, which I intended.Cheerio
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Are the magnet and stiffness mod easy?
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@dthom:
Are the magnet and stiffness mod easy?
If you talk of this
it seems like 52 is nonlinear,and u can modify it to linear:
http://www.berkuts.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=142For my Saitek X52 Pro - I havenāt done either but I found the Hall sensor brackets slightly loose in mine which would have given a non-linear response (the screws just needed a quater turn to make them tight).
So at a guess
For the Magent mod - I would say that tighteing everything up fixed the non-linear and adding the screws reduced the sensitivity which may/may not be good?
For the Stiffness mod - adding temp. spacers under the stick spring should remove some/all of the center point floppiness and looks easy to do but Iāve just adusted to the floppiness.
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You might want to make sure you have an up to date driver. Also, you havenāt given an system specs and beleve me, I have been working at gettimg my system back after being in the dust for 5 years. It takes some time to get everything just right. Try running it on lower resolutions and working your way up until you get the response you want. I was over controlling too and it just requires trial and error. Keep working with it and post you system specs by typing ādxdiagā in your run window and look at your video drivers. Post what you got and we will try to grt you controllable.
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so you suggest it has something to do with the individual pc?
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Think in my case with too harsh responsiveness aka too big delay it is just the stick and the software. Tested all sorts of seetup settings. Seen videos of my online mates and they can do stuff I never could do.
Tom
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Iāve been using my X52 Pro with BMS for about a year now. And yes, the sensitivity is highly annoying! Especially while re-fueling! Maybe if my joystick was as well-made as the F16ās it wouldnāt be a problem, but itās not. The small amount of mechanical play wreaks havoc on the pitch when combined with the sensitive flight model of the F16.
But finallyā¦ FINALLY I found the solution. So simple: Iāve been using the Saitek Profile Editor v6.6.6.9 to program the buttons (the 7.x.x.x version crashes too much) and stumbled on the Y-axis sensitivity adjustment.
Open Profile Editor.
Load your favorite profile.
Scroll down to the Y-Axis.
It should say āY-Axis = Directional Axisā and if it doesnāt, select it using the small āright-arrowā that appears when you float the mouse over the upper right corner of the Y-Axis box.
Click in the Y-Axis box and a āSensitivityā adjustment pops up.
I scrolled the adjustment to the left from 50% down to about 35%.
Makes the world of difference!Good luck!
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hmm. old thread.
anyways, I just tried removing the BMS set āsmallā deadzone. didnt even notice it before.
I didnt really notice a difference in the minute long test flight afterwards, but I also didnt tank yet. will try that and see if there is a difference.
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you have done 6 updates and not caring to change the curve for us non-resistive joystick users. you know,itās too sensitive in motion joysticks you need to change it. aiming a bomb and landing is too difficult, i end up using 10% of joystick motion to aim. plus you havenāt modelled the flight computer right because when i pitch up more than like 10 degrees it starts pitching up by itself and i need down input to keep straight. revise
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You should read the FLCS article before.
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plus you havenāt modelled the flight computer right because when i pitch up more than like 10 degrees it starts pitching up by itself and i need down input to keep straight. revise
like the real oneā¦ā¦
i give you a tip
FM_developper_note_4
page 20when in pitch up situation like the third graph
An = G cos(pitchangle)ā¦for 45 deg pitch up, An = 0.7G
under 11deg AOA (which means the FLCS is in G command mode) the FLCS ALWAYS commands 1G when stick neutral, therefore the AC is pitching up by itself to keep 1G, if you want to fly straight at 45 deg pitch up, you need to fly at 0.7G whiich means you need to push a little on the stick
this behavior is well illustred in some F16 aerobatics articlesā¦
revise plz