[F4RADAR] Lightweight standalone radar application
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Does BMS or F4RADAR have any plan of making transponder / squawk function work since BMS has already have this avionics & would be a pity if this can’t be used together with ATC/GCI app like F4RADAR
Another thinking is that the altitude shown on F4Radar isn’t really correct & in line with the altitude in BMS. Guess it is because F4Radar gets info update from BMS 2D instead of transponder. When QNH is adjusted, F4Radar can no longer get accurate altitude info hence making human ATC less efficient during the approach decent phase.
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@philip40912 good point with squawks.
I believe that maybe a realistic issue with regards to QNH. My real life transponders that I can see their altitude reporting always output in pressure altitude (QNE). I think RL ATC have to factor that difference between QNH and QNE in, which is usually only a few hundred feet different in most locations, but I’ve never thought to ask any of them. Maybe there is an automatic conversion on the radar set though…
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Also bear in mind the initial idea behind of the tool was not to be used as ATC but more as GCI and to be honest if I request a picture I don’t care about a thousand feet difference in the resulting call
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@oakdesign Yeah fully understand it’s built for GCI. Just proposing an idea as this app has great potential to be used for multipurposes. BMS is such a great platform with great avionics from pilot’s point of view. If GCI/ATC’s tool can be improved, for instance extracting data to F4RADAR like the way MFDE app does in order to show correct altitude, DED squawk / transponder / IFF setting etc…it’s just going to be super great If how MFDE export / extract BMS flight data could be somehow applied to feeding info to F4Radar, it would be awesome!
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@philip40912 comparing MFDE with F4Radar is technically a different story as MFDE relys on Flightdata that is explicit exported for your own flight on the documented shared memory data. F4Radar digs it’s data from completely undocumented area and such concrete data for flights in an agged state might not even be available
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@fearripper96 said in [F4RADAR] Lightweight standalone radar application:
@tumbler31 I was curious and tested this after I read your comment. The AI AWACS will only use the BE set on the 2D map and will not change references if you do in 3D. Might there be something similar with F4RADAR that produces the behaviour in the above discussion?
F4RADAR BE cycling doesn’t afact the game and also not the AI AWACS. It only changes the BE used for F4RADAR
@philip40912 said in [F4RADAR] Lightweight standalone radar application:
Does BMS or F4RADAR have any plan of making transponder / squawk function work since BMS has already have this avionics & would be a pity if this can’t be used together with ATC/GCI app like F4RADAR
Another thinking is that the altitude shown on F4Radar isn’t really correct & in line with the altitude in BMS. Guess it is because F4Radar gets info update from BMS 2D instead of transponder. When QNH is adjusted, F4Radar can no longer get accurate altitude info hence making human ATC less efficient during the approach decent phase.
Adding squawk is still on my wish list, as is the grouping of flights are adding user defined labels. And yes, as the help indicates, the program uses MSL, AGL is quite a challenge for such a simple program.
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@Tumbler31 , I don’t understand BMS Status is always Off
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@suhkoi69 said in [F4RADAR] Lightweight standalone radar application:
@Tumbler31 , I don’t understand BMS Status is always Off
what is it wrong ?Real quick thought, without reading anything, just by remembering when I was using it the last time:
Did you start F4RADAR with admin rights?EDIT: If I’m not mistaken it needs to read the RAM data etc., so maybe thats the issue here…
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@zero900 many thanks!!!
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I don’t see the Kunsan taxiways…normal ?
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@suhkoi69 taxiways have been disabled a while ago
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Hi is there a way to get this to load via the Alternative Launcher? It keeps asking me for the install directory even though I’ve tried pointing it there.
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<p>问题签名:<br /> 问题事件名称: APPCRASH<br /> 应用程序名: F4RADARv0.35.exe<br /> 应用程序版本: 0.0.0.0<br /> 应用程序时间戳: 616ea298<br /> 故障模块名称: F4RADARv0.35.exe<br /> 故障模块版本: 0.0.0.0<br /> 故障模块时间戳: 616ea298<br /> 异常代码: c0000005<br /> 异常偏移: 00000000000166d0<br /> OS 版本: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1<br /> 区域设置 ID: 2052<br /> 其他信息 1: 73be<br /> 其他信息 2: 73bec155d80d30c0106b2c2c566fc0c2<br /> 其他信息 3: 6987<br /> 其他信息 4: 69874969dfd537a0b062c2ad67428d79<br /><br /><br /><span style=“color:#333333;background-color:#f7f8fa”>window7 64</span></p>
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<p>@asleepwater - Sorry to say, but F4RADAR is not compatible with Windows 7. I have tried just about everything I can think of, even worked with Tumbler to get it fixed, but no luck. </p>
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<p>Hi, has anyone experienced F4RADAR with very unstable refresh rate?<br />Very frequently that some contacts would faded at crucial stage which is frustrating.<br />Will there by any improve in this app with 4.36</p>
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<blockquote>Hi, has anyone experienced F4RADAR with very unstable refresh rate?<br />Very frequently that some contacts would faded at crucial stage which is frustrating.<br />Will there by any improve in this app with 4.36</blockquote><p>That’s a BMS issue, nothing much F4RADAR can do about that.</p>
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<p>@philip40912 <br /><br />Yes, same here, and as @Tumbler31 says there isn’t anything you can do.<br /><br />When I was using F4RADAR I learned to give my guys plenty of warning of incoming threats. The slow and unreliable refresh rate also means that I was of no use at all, or actually even worse, could be giving bad (old) vectors to threat when the hostiles were within about 10nm. I just educated my guys to take care of themselves within visual range, and not to expect any new updates from me for threats within about 10nm. I would continue to alert them of new threats approaching.<br /><br />It’s not perfect but neither is real life.<br /></p>
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F4RADAR has been updated to work with 4.36.0. It now also shows naval contacts (if they are spotted and/or identified).
I might have missed lookup here and there, so let me know if something needs to be fixed. Enjoy!
- version 0.36 changes (23.04.2022)
- Updated for BMS 4.36.0
- Added naval contacts
- version 0.36 changes (23.04.2022)
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Update to v0.37:
Updated the type file and changed some internals to reflect the correct type of the identified contactThanks for the reports!