Fallon-Nevada Theater discussion
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Just as long as you model the Bird Farm in Fallon.
Nickle Blackjack + 50 cent beer = many drunken aviators.
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No matter how you slice it there is quite a lot to make a new theater in Falcon. So therefore it is quite a shame that PMC has not joined forces and participated in effort to advance Falcon theaters by offering expertise and all their past work.
PMC theaters are good springboard to make more robust, advanced and detailed F4 theaters, but instead, standing alone and “as is”, they constitute not much value on its own. And having made some good gesture towards F4 community Mr.S would be perhaps even welcomed to plea for help in his possibly dire financial situation with more successful results and reply.
What makes me to say it is shame instead of it is pity, because I am well aware how “cooperatively” he has dealt with FF as well. It is very strange story and case to put so much efforts for so long to preserve Falcon4 legend and in the end throw all that away and go crushing down with the smoke. Sure that from the perspective of some time now it is obvious that his payware move brought him nothing but an infamy and maybe even disrespect.
This is about Nevada though……
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Snakeman: we are not going to bail you out, but do the right thing and release those theaters to BMS.
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@Toonce: If you want … I can give you the intial UI conversion for Nevada + campaigns introduction video (I’ve made only one IIRC?) Up to you to modify it as you wish… Just tell me.
@Red Dog: Can I give your Neveda map included ?
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@Red Dog: Can I give your Neveda map included ?
Well yes. Not sure it would be useful since it might not match the new boudaries and it’s far from being finished since it’s only the backround map with terrain and latitudes and longitudes.
My next step was to place airbase and MOAs but that was put to a standstill with the PMC fiasco.I’m dearly looking forward to finish this map and have such a practise terrain for BMS, so yeah, if my help is needed, consider it done.
I’m looking forward to finish that map indeed.
It’s not the latest one but you get the picture (teh last one is in Deejay’s UI conversion above) -
It appears that Nevada theater is more advanced than we all thought. I have made quite a few textures for Nevada including entire Las Vegas, that was just before toonces came with idea of Fallon range. So to save my older work I thought that making theater centered on both Fallon and Nellis would be quite interesting. Unfortunately 32 seg would not be able to encompass both it must be 64seg size. ATM project of making tiles for Nevada, went on the shelf. Again there must be one person who has a time and is willing to put it together.
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WOW WOW WOW !
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If you want a hand of help for this nice theater about NavAids, their list and some IAP charts, i’m here for you, just “pm” me ;).
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I already have a stations.dat file complete with ILS and a few approach plates made of for Nevada.
Again, all depending on the compatibility of this Fallon-Nevada terrain with the past version, but in anyway I shouldn’t be too hard to adapt to the new version. -
@Red:
Well yes. Not sure it would be useful since it might not match the new boudaries and it’s far from being finished since it’s only the backround map with terrain and latitudes and longitudes.
My next step was to place airbase and MOAs but that was put to a standstill with the PMC fiasco.I’m dearly looking forward to finish this map and have such a practise terrain for BMS, so yeah, if my help is needed, consider it done.
I’m looking forward to finish that map indeed.
It’s not the latest one but you get the picture (teh last one is in Deejay’s UI conversion above)Maybe can help you this image??
Much time ago, I was trying to do a mix betwen nevada map and nevada charts… but I stoped it…
But I have a little question: Why not use a real navigation chart mix on background for main map?
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I have jumped to cockpit again and flew over Nevada. And while flying over I was thinking to myself , why I put this project on the shelf.
But then it slowly came to me. Tile/set limit….
I thought at the time, with such good satellite photo material available for this area, why not to really push the limit little further. Better mountains , better roads , better creeks better cities. With DCS coming with their grand and pretty gorgeous Nevada terrain, I thought Falcon community wanted to look good too when compared side by side. Sure perhaps that would still be not exactly the same, but at least we would put up some good fight. I am still positively convinced that we can!
But …with added Las Vegas I came up pretty close to the limits then. And so here we are today.Can BMS coders kindly lift that set/tile limit? IMHO it is well worth all of the efforts if even just for new Falcon BMS Nevada,
Thank you & few more shots.
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looks already nice, Ted.
+1 for the tileset limit topic.
Cheers,
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I am not able to help so perhaps my opinion is invalid, but if the new tiling means 2 years before we see the end result, I would say no. Sooner with what we have is better IMHO.
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Well another theater under development on the shelf as others…
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slow down Arty :-), they get to it ……
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slow down Arty :-), they get to it ……
I hope so…
Not get back to the subject but we all know how many theaters are on the making… Even Israel isn’t finished. -
My bet is on Somalia, Poland and EMF.
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I hope so…
Not get back to the subject but we all know how many theaters are on the making… Even Israel isn’t finished.Arty my dear friend,
you are right,
but all that W.I.P. shows me - that there are a lot of good people out there, who wanna get things rolling.
Ok, it will take his time ( and they do it in there off time ) might be that somethings get finish - somethings might not.
BUT the importaint thing is, that they show interest on BMS - and we, as users are getting there work for free.
Even the Akropolis was not build on a single day……
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Even Israel isn’t finished.
Maybe is not finished finished, but BMS community is flying it, right? Still, I agree, sure it could be better and I would love to have some comments how to make it finished.
My call for being able to use more tiles is not to “whine” or the look for an excuse for suspended project which not being finished from other reasons. Rather …. it is to be able to do things better. Other flavor of Falcon FF has that feature built in and I hope that this can be done in BMS as well.
And no… it would not take 2 years to make it happen, we have learned already quite a lot how to speed up things and make more efficient.