Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.37
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@Todd1215 I… would not have a clue how to do that.
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@Atlas
Just open the profile with the Profile Editor and drag and drop some of the gauges from the Falcon Simulator section of the Toolbox, on the left hand side, onto your main monitor. Then save the profile. -
@linknet Okay, I see… and what exactly am I looking for here? Checking if it’s lagging on one monitor but not the other?
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Yes, that’s what I would have thought.
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@Dan Postition Three Entered should be “press xxxx” instead of “send”
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@Bikeman
O.K. Got it! It works great, now. Thanks!
Just wondering…
Is the switch in the real jet, momentary on both, the open AND close or just the close? -
Hmmm… this is odd and a little embarrassing now. Seems like my issues are gone? It looks like something just needs to settle down a bit as it looks like it’s still a little laggy at the start (testing using the Refuelling TE) but as time goes on, it smoothens out to the point that I’m questioning myself whether I’m really seeing lag or not.
Will continue to observe and see if it continues.
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@Todd1215 said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
@Atlas can you put one of the gauges on your main display where BMS is rendering in 3D and see if the lag is still present?
Did this today as noticing lag again. Put the altimeter and RPM gauge on my main screen. Lag-a-palooza. Both gauges would lag. Sometimes it would smoothen out, then lag again, then smoothen out for some time, then lag again.
@Todd1215 said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
@Atlas SharedMemory polling is roughly 30 Hz. Thats the rate at which Helios will poll for updates. That is NOT the rate at which Helios will update MFD extractions . If you are seeing lag then there is something else going on. I’ve seen issues where the monitor refresh rate was different between monitors which caused lag in getting updates from SharedMemory. Have you looked at your CPU performance when running BMS and Helios? Helios is all CPU bound and most of BMS is as well. Do you have any AntiVirus running ondemand scanning / processor scanning these types of things. What .NET Framework version do you have installed? Helios is design “still” for .NET 4.7.2. I personally have .NET Framework 4.8 install on my Windows 10 and everything runs smoothly.
So that’s something else to check.
Even with a 30Hz poll, it should still be smooth, right? Even for gauges?
What program do you recommend for looking at CPU performance to check when running BMS and Helios? -
@Atlas said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
@Todd1215 said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
@Atlas can you put one of the gauges on your main display where BMS is rendering in 3D and see if the lag is still present?
Did this today as noticing lag again. Put the altimeter and RPM gauge on my main screen. Lag-a-palooza. Both gauges would lag. Sometimes it would smoothen out, then lag again, then smoothen out for some time, then lag again.
@Todd1215 said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
@Atlas SharedMemory polling is roughly 30 Hz. Thats the rate at which Helios will poll for updates. That is NOT the rate at which Helios will update MFD extractions . If you are seeing lag then there is something else going on. I’ve seen issues where the monitor refresh rate was different between monitors which caused lag in getting updates from SharedMemory. Have you looked at your CPU performance when running BMS and Helios? Helios is all CPU bound and most of BMS is as well. Do you have any AntiVirus running ondemand scanning / processor scanning these types of things. What .NET Framework version do you have installed? Helios is design “still” for .NET 4.7.2. I personally have .NET Framework 4.8 install on my Windows 10 and everything runs smoothly.
So that’s something else to check.
Even with a 30Hz poll, it should still be smooth, right? Even for gauges?
What program do you recommend for looking at CPU performance to check when running BMS and Helios?I use CPU-Z for overall info and Core Temp 1.17.1 for CPU Temps (shows all cores)
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@Atlas Very strange for it to be intermittent. A long shot but one thing you could check is to see that all your heatsink thermal paste/pads for both the cpu and the graphics card are intact and the chips aren’t being intermittently throttled back due to overheating.
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A bit of a screen dump here guys so bear with me:
Using the AAR TE on the loaded F-16, once the mission starts, I clear the log history, then focus back on BMS and do a couple of dives and climbs. Usually smooth response from Helios during the climbs then laggy performance during the dives for both gauges and MFD displays. From what I can see, some of the cores are over utilised? None of the cores get really hot though, 58-59C max. GPU VRAM gets to 80C, the GPU itself is only 53C.
@linknet @Todd1215 However, I’m no expert at reading these numbers so maybe there’s something there that I’m not seeing?
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@Atlas I’m even less of an expert at reading these but it seems odd that the GPU Power increases from 40W to over 300W without any increase in fan speed and the Performance Limit kicks in.
Have you tried just monitoring the BMS frame rates during climb and dive?
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@linknet if the temps don’t get to a certain level, the fans don’t ramp up.
I’m trying to figure out how to record PC performance during a mission but RivaTuner doesn’t seem to work once in 3D?
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@Atlas Why not just monitor the BMS frame rate throughout the mission? Also what BMS frame rates are you getting in the Benchmark TE?
Reading this it would appear that either load has been transferred from cpu to gpu for 4.36 or there’s just more detail to be processed:
https://forum.falcon-bms.com/topic/22269/4-36-incredible-performance-boost -
@linknet Not doing the benchmark TE yet as the problem has been presenting itself in the AAR TEs and I want to keep it consistent there. On that TE, I get 160-200+fps according to the BMS framerate counter. MSI AB says 140-200+fps with a 1% low of 92 and 0.01% low of 63, both of which occur during the start of recording and mostly no change during the mission. When the stuttering occurs, I’m at around 190-200fps according to the framerate counter in BMS.
If you think this is a GPU load problem, I’ll see about reducing my settings and see if that helps.
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@Atlas said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
@linknet Not doing the benchmark TE yet as the problem has been presenting itself in the AAR TEs and I want to keep it consistent there. On that TE, I get 160-200+fps according to the BMS framerate counter. MSI AB says 140-200+fps with a 1% low of 92 and 0.01% low of 63, both of which occur during the start of recording and mostly no change during the mission. When the stuttering occurs, I’m at around 190-200fps according to the framerate counter in BMS.
If you think this is a GPU load problem, I’ll see about reducing my settings and see if that helps.
@Atlas - You get 160-200 FPS sitting on the Taxiway in The Benchmark TE?? This is what I get with most settings maxed out, and my system is fairly potent?
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@Atlas said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
@linknet Not doing the benchmark TE yet as the problem has been presenting itself in the AAR TEs and I want to keep it consistent there.
@Icer See above
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@Atlas said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
@Atlas said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
@linknet Not doing the benchmark TE yet as the problem has been presenting itself in the AAR TEs and I want to keep it consistent there.
@Icer See above
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@Icer quick test, just sat on the ramp…