Cursor radar
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@mppzgz thanks … I get it now, I think. sounds like the analog ministick is too fritzy to be used, directly, even with deadzone=large? that’s a shame
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@airtex2019 I tried in the past, but key binding was the best solution. The cursor as axis is a pain… I tried lot of settings, even in the bms config and it was a messy.
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If the diagonal movements are not mapped, you cannot move diagionally anymore (eg with shift-arrow keys) or get weird results as shown in the clip above.
It seems to come from a refactor with some unintended side effects. Sadly there’s to work around available, but it is on the list for U1
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@mppzgz only workaround I can think of would involve vJoy+Gremlin and some degree of scripting…
either apply some noise-filtering to the x/y analog axes. or simulate an 8-way hat switch (or bank of 8 buttons) based on position of the x/y ministick axes.
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@Tumbler31 please. It is important to many users. Do not forget it. Workaround seem to be complicated although possible.
Edit:
Also keyboard users using the arrows to move the radar will have the same issue. I understand the need of 8 directions for some hardware, but 4 directions with diagonal pressing both at the same time should be available to chose.
Anyway… shit happens. Good job with 4.37.
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@airtex2019 yep…
I use gremlin to sanitize some axis. I spent some time in previous version with axis and best option was key binding, but at least for a while I must come back to that option.But it is difficult… F… Stick intilializes sometimes at 0.0 some times with an small shift. Any idea to combine axis to create 8 buttons with the gremlin? For sure it will be possible. That soft offers plenty of options, but some are complicated.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/w7eon7ln9cydkt4/Joystick no saitek.rar?dl=0
By the moment, using joystick gremlin it seems work properly (more testing needed).
Do not open any saitek software. Drivers (included) only is neccesary. Saitek soft is forbidden.
1.- Install Vjoy setup
2.- Set up a Vjoy
3.- Delete the slider and implement cursor as DX (limitation of axis in DX need to loose the slider…) . Use this: x52_ministickFIX_no_SLIDER.reg
4.- Install HidHideMSI.msi
5.- Hide the original X52 HOTAS to all software except joystick gremlin using the following process at HidHide :
- Open joystick gremlin AS ADMINISTRATOR ALWAYS and Load X5220221231buttons.xml
7.- Go to Tools/calibration. Move ALL the axes and center it at 50%. Then press centered, then save.
Press the console remote icon to start working.
8.- Go to the launcher and map all the buttons as Vjoy and the axes included the cursor from Vjoy
Pray.
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I thought vjoy stopped working with the latest version of Windows?
@mppzgz said in Cursor radar:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w7eon7ln9cydkt4/Joystick no saitek.rar?dl=0
By the moment, using joystick gremlin it seems work properly (more testing needed).
Do not open any saitek software. Drivers (included) only is neccesary. Saitek soft is forbidden.
1.- Install Vjoy setup
2.- Set up a Vjoy
3.- Delete the slider and implement cursor as DX (limitation of axis in DX need to loose the slider…) . Use this: x52_ministickFIX_no_SLIDER.reg
4.- Install HidHideMSI.msi
5.- Hide the original X52 HOTAS to all software except joystick gremlin using the following process at HidHide :
- Open joystick gremlin AS ADMINISTRATOR ALWAYS and Load X5220221231buttons.xml
7.- Go to Tools/calibration. Move ALL the axes and center it at 50%. Then press centered, then save.
Press the console remote icon to start working.
8.- Go to the launcher and map all the buttons as Vjoy and the axes included the cursor from Vjoy
Pray.
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@TheSilkMan no idea. In an update it disappeared to me but reinstalling it, worked.
Using win 10 here.
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@mppzgz what version of Vjoy and windows 10 do you have?
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@TheSilkMan Edición
Windows 10 Pro Versión 21H2 Instalado el 20/11/2020 Compilación del sistema operativo 19044.2364 Experiencia Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.4190.0
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@Tumbler31 said in Cursor radar:
If the diagonal movements are not mapped, you cannot move diagionally anymore (eg with shift-arrow keys) or get weird results as shown in the clip above.
It seems to come from a refactor with some unintended side effects. Sadly there’s to work around available, but it is on the list for U1
@Tumbler31 Thx.
Do you have any idea how long before the release of the update?
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@Maveric said in Cursor radar:
@Tumbler31 said in Cursor radar:
If the diagonal movements are not mapped, you cannot move diagionally anymore (eg with shift-arrow keys) or get weird results as shown in the clip above.
It seems to come from a refactor with some unintended side effects. Sadly there’s to work around available, but it is on the list for U1
@Tumbler31 Thx.
Do you have any idea how long before the release of the update?
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Same problem for me with the cursor of my X52 Pro, having erratics movements.
In 4.36 it was working fine with axis three bands.
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I have a problem with radar cursor even on keyboard with default mapping:
in settings Shift + up/down/left/right show that binding are correct, in cockpit it has no any reaction - cursor ignore it and stays in center no matter what
Saw same complains thing in youtube comments under some video about bms 4.37, so i’m not alone in with it in some degree, but yet can’t find more suitable thread on forum than that one, assuming the same new callbacks kind nature.
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@Dronny just to verify … if you have an analog axis mapped to x/y cursor, the keyboard/button/hat callbacks won’t work
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@Dronny said in Cursor radar:
in settings Shift + up/down/left/right show that binding are correct, in cockpit it has no any reaction - cursor ignore it and stays in center no matter what
You are not in SP mode by any chance ?
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@jayb said in Cursor radar:
You are not in SP mode by any chance ?
Nope, same behaviors on any type of soi.
@airtex2019 said in Cursor radar:
if you have an analog axis mapped to x/y cursor, the keyboard/button/hat callbacks won’t work
Have no axis mapped on them as far as i know (none available for that even if i wanted so), yes. And even if controller stays selected as keyboard only, also.