No Nav points and lines on the HSD
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@Scotters You can turn them off in HSD CNTL page. Check there!
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Did you align the INS / EGI properly?
Did you load the DTE?
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@dumba It’s worth a try! Thanks dumba.
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Usually in a training mission or any mission for that matter if you don’t have steerpoints or PPT’s on your HSD you need to do the click dance before you get into the jet. Before you get in the jet open the DTC and do a save on the targets tab, go to the comms tab and click comms plan and save then go to IFF tab and click IFF plan (or whatever it is called) and save. then jump in the jet and it should be there. On a rare occasion this has happen to me and this usually solves it. Also if you move the bullseye you will need to save the DTC for that change to show up in the HSD.
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@dumba I tried, but that was not the issue.
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@MaxWaldorf Thanks for the help and suggestions Max. I did do all of that in ramp start, but even when loading training missions that do not include a ramp start, I am having the same issue, such as in training mission 2, Navigation, where I already start in the air. I did reload the dtc just to be sure, but no luck.
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@Carbide It has to be something with me screwing up the DTC. I did do the click dance, but what I am seeing in the dtc setup page is that it says target steer points not set. I have tried reset, and reset all, and while that fixed issues I had on the comms page, it is not fixing the issue with not steerpoints on the HSD. This has to be the issue, but since clicking “reset” and “reset all” did not work, I am stumped.
Could I have messed something up with Weapons Delivery Planner?
I am sure I am missing something simple and obvious, but right now I am not seeing it. I really do appreciate all the help and advice, because this is driving me nuts.
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@Scotters If its driving you nuts and its taken longer than 20 minutes to fix then save your config folder and any files you want to backup and reinstall BMS (5 min). Test clean install (keep an extra copy of clean install config folder). If you put old config folder back and it happens again then it is something you messed up in config folder and you are close to solving it by testing one file at a time. When you find it, replace it with one from clean config.
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@Icarus I think I will have to do that. Everything I have tried has failed so far.
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@Scotters maybe try a new pilot, before going with the nuclear option
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@Quasi_Stellar
Well, I already went nuclear, but no joy! I uninstalled, reinstalled, put my backup config folder back in, started the game without WDP, but still no nav points in the training missions. And I was mistaken, they do not show up on the HUD either. The tadpole is there, but whichever steer point I choose, its 999 nm away, lol.Now the nav points and lines are on the map when setting up the mission. Is there a way to reload them back into the DTC, or whatever.
Btw, I will try using a new pilot right now! Maybe that will fix it.
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@Scotters Did you try it before you replaced the config folder like I told you?
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@Quasi_Stellar No joy with the new pilot.
So I see all the steer points on the map in the planning screen. I am not using Weapon Delivery Planner. I am doing the click dance. I have tried several training missions, including the first 4, and a few others like Bar Cap to test things.
Other clues, when I load up training mission 3, landing practice, all the lines are red. I know I did not move any lines or steer points.
When I am in the cockpit flying, and I switch between steer points, it appears that I am getting the correct latitude and longitude, but on the HUD, I am always 999 nm away, and no lines appear on the HSD.
I have the Viper TQS and I have the ILS/TCN dial set to NAV. Also, I use the DogFight switch to make sure that I am in NAV mode.
Is there a way to just recopy the Training MIssions? Or should I not be able to reset things in the DTC? I have hit reset many times though, no luck.
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@Icarus No I missed that, my apologies Icarus. Obviously it has to be something there.
I have spent over an hour trouble shooting. Taking a break for now. If anyone has any ideas, I would greatly appreciate it. -
@Scotters could be a problem with the user ini file or the mission ini…
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Don’t know if it’s related… but maybe an input:
I had an issue once… creating lines and PPTs on the map…
sometimes, when I grabbed and moved a point at max zoom factor, the point would disappear to somewhere else, far far outside of the theater area.
This could really mash up any flight plan and navigation.In order to fix it, I had to open the “callsign”.ini with notepad++, look for big negative numbers, and reset them manually.
Maybe you would want to check your “Scotters.ini” file and check the lines beginning with “target”, “ppt”, lineSTPT", wpntarget"… if there are any negative numbers.
But please do a backup first if you want to change something.
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Thanks! I will look into that.
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@MaxWaldorf
Do you or anyone else have a copy of the mission ini for the training missions. Maybe I can try replacing it. -
@MaxWaldorf No negative numbers, but I see in every line for steer points" “target not set.” Maybe that is a clue, not sure.
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Just reinstall (save clean config and mission files) then add old files one at a time starting with most likely culprits until it starts again then you will know which one needs to be replaced.