Monster Terrain tool
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Its an independent 3rd party editing tool and has no place in your sim-folder.
That makes as much sense as installing Teamspeak into the BMS folder just because one uses both together.You are not supposed to install it in your falcon installation or folder in the first place - OMG.
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First, this is the only time this has ever happened to me with any 3rd party software, so I don’t find that “you shoulda known better” a really strong defense, nor is this something that should be defended. The tool is awesome, and I’m very thankful for it, but the installer needs to be reconsidered or some line of its code needs to be fixed.
Didn’t install it into the Falcon directory. Installed it into a higher level folder I used to group all Falcon things together.
Games\F4\
In that folder was:
Falcon 4
Falcon BMS
Terrainfiles\ (looking at Balkans dds files but didn’t have the campaign installed)The terrain editor didn’t allow me to create a new folder, so I just plopped it into the F4 folder that housed everything else. Never occurred to me that this would be an issue, because in 2 decades of gaming and modding it never has been. I’ve done this probably over a hundred times with all sorts of third-party stuff. Uninstalling JUST takes out what was placed, and keeps any other files, including configs or saves that were created by the program (unless chosen in the uninstaller to be removed as well), sometimes even the folder itself remains despite being empty.
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@DNK: Thanks for pointing this out, for others to be careful when uninstalling. The logic behind this is simple. TerrainEditor while it’s running, it creates some temp files that can grow sometime quite big. If everything runs ok, and you shutdown the program correctly, these temp files are deleted but, if shutdown is not normal, these files can remain there (although they usually are deleted next time that the program is run).
I chose to delete everything on uninstallation in order not to have any chance in leaving behind some big files, occupying disk space doing nothing. Moreover, I believe that uninstalling a program means delete every trace of this program ever existed on your computer (tired of the habit of some programs, that after uninstalling them, they leave useless files and folders all over my computer). Given the continuous update of the program via autoupdate, it’s difficult to update the uninstaller so it only deletes the files that belongs to the program.
So, yes I confirm, uninstalling the program will delete the whole folder it was installed into, but I don’t consider that dangerous. IMHO, a user shouldn’t have anything to do with the program’s folder, either change something by hand or keep any other files/folders in it that don’t belong to the program.
That’s my opinion, as I said, and I don’t wish to debate it or argue with anyone. Thanks again for pointing this out, since I haven’t thought that something like that could happen, otherwise I would had warned everyone about this.
Maybe later, when I stop developing TerrainEditor and everything is not changed so often, I’ll make an uninstaller like you describe.
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Well, thanks for the reply. Gotta say I disagree with you on your perspectives on uninstallers, but just so long as people are aware of this issue, I guess I’d prefer it if you kept working on the tool itself, since that’s more important
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Monster
Not sure if you are following this thread anymore (I hope you are) but I have a question. First I am extremely new to terrain and theater design. I used your terrain tool to fix tiles in the theater, I saved the L2 but when I go into sim I cant see my terrain. What is the process for getting my new tiles into the theater
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Monster
Not sure if you are following this thread anymore (I hope you are) but I have a question. First I am extremely new to terrain and theater design. I used your terrain tool to fix tiles in the theater, I saved the L2 but when I go into sim I cant see my terrain. What is the process for getting my new tiles into the theater
Go to… terrain folder and delete:
TERRAIN.BIL
TERRAIN.HDR
TERRAIN.NRM
TERRAIN.SBI
TERRAIN.TIDWhen you start Falcon files will be rebuilt.
After that you should see your changes.
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Thanks worked like a charm
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With Terrain editor v.3.5.6
I created a new set of tiles and imported in tile palette and after positioned in the theater window as I proceed next?THanks
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When I press the green button Save L2 nothing happens and the button is pressed
thanks again
Striker
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When I press the green button Save L2 nothing happens and the button is pressed
After you put a tile from the tile palette into the theater window, (drag&drop) the “Save L2” button becomes available.
Then press this button and the button will stay pressed as you said.So your change is saved, … watch time/ date of last change in explorer.
Cheers,
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Ok solved!!
Now I will work to create aviano where I often go to photographStriker
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Wondering is anyone can help me out with this error. I used to have it TE installed a bit ago, now it won’t let me reinstall.
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I’d try to manualy unzip the *.exe elsewhere and start the installer from there.
Your actually Temp\6D07…… path looks a little strange to me.Cheers,
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I’d try to manualy unzip the *.exe elsewhere and start the installer from there.
Your actually Temp\6D07…… path looks a little strange to me.Cheers,http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f82/lazystone/Smileys/hat_3.gif
LSI tried installing in it my downloads folder and desktop. It starts installing and then stops when that error pops up. I checked that path and there’s nothing there dealing with Terrain editor. It’s really strange. The program -really- wants that .msi file.
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Redownload TerrainEditor_v311_setup from Monster’s site and run it again. Most likely it will ask if you want to Modify, Repair or Remove the program. For now choose Remove. Then run TerrainEditor_v311_setup again choosing directory where you want it to reside. It should work.
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@Jammer:
The program -really- wants that .msi file.
Confirmed, the *.exe extract a *.msi beside a few other files for install into \Temp\longnumber\
Try what “Polak” said.
Cheers,
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Redownload TerrainEditor_v311_setup from Monster’s site and run it again. Most likely it will ask if you want to Modify, Repair or Remove the program. For now choose Remove. Then run TerrainEditor_v311_setup again choosing directory where you want it to reside. It should work.
Polak. Tried redownloading again. No go. When I look at my installed programs and try to uninstall what is left of the program IT GIVES ME THE SAME ERROR ASKING FOR THAT DAMN MSI FILE.
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Confirmed, the *.exe extract a *.msi beside a few other files for install into \Temp\longnumber\
Try what “Polak” said.
Cheers,http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f82/lazystone/Smileys/hat_3.gif
LSIt doesn’t extract anything. The installer doesn’t get that far before the error.