FO - Battle For Balkans Theater
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With all due respect, if BMS is deeply concerned about core files being overwritten why aren’t the SIM files being individualized per theater?
At the moment the only reason why we have to overwrite core files is because there is no other solution.
I had a quick look at the SU27 FM / “AFM”.
just by reading it, i see some small mistakes in Gravity center positionning vs Fuel tank positionning…
No big deal though
i think this SU27 FM / “AFM” should be adjusted in order to find his way to 4.33.
However, the people who made it need to show us the final EM charts of their model.
i think TOPOLO has a tool that makes them automatically.
Finally:
FYI , 4.33 has a build in anti cheat module that will prevent ANY connexion to the server if FM files are different.
so be aware that those kind of DB change will not be “permitted” in the futureit has been extremly difficult to Make a unique stable version for the Falcon 4 community…please dont start to break it…
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So please, make it clear in the package that FM file will be replaced and considered as NO LONGER COMPATIBLE with stock install.
Please explain how and why the stock install is “no longer compatible” (as described in your words) once the su-27 dat file is overwritten.
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Brilliant, thanks for this….this will get me back into the Falcon skies again I think!!
Cant see teh problem with the install, surely, you just have separate installs ? I know I do…
Finally, I see someone suggested or asked about the Nove objects folder, you cant just drop this in can you, as there campaign specific skins etc… is there a way to use the new objects he has made if we want to? These would be the icing on the cake…
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well there is. Use f4patch and give an easy way to revert back to stock files.
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LOL Dee-Jay…relax and read the thread as whole. No sacrilege happened as such.
And Mav-Jp, you also have no reason to be afraid of a “broken” BMS, don´t worry - at least not by us.
Btw. Mav… we at FO are deeply concerned about making things in harmony (standards and compatibility) with the official version and i stated that before.
The Su-27 was an exception or an experiment - if you will - after the community asked for it after hearing about it. You may remember, that i asked you aswell, if you were involved in this Su-27 project, because i felt “nervous” myself too :mrgreen:
I would appreciate, if you find the time to take a deeper look at the FM the boys did there (i had no time, sorry).Long story short, NO reason to celebrate a drama where there is none. The lessons learnt (installer notification) and…moving on …
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I am relax … but want also to be clear about policies here. Do not touch to Korean stock database unless it is clearly stated in mod/theater installer.
The lessons learnt (installer notification) and…moving on …
Perfect. Fine by me.
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@A.S:
LOL Dee-Jay…relax and read the thread as whole. No sacrilege happened as such.
And Mav-Jp, you also have no reason to be afraid of a “broken” BMS, don´t worry - at least not by us.
Btw. Mav… we at FO are deeply concerned about making things in harmony (standards and compatibility) with the official version and i stated that before.
The Su-27 was an exception or an experiment - if you will - after the community asked for it after hearing about it. You may remember, that i asked you aswell, if you were involved in this Su-27 project, because i felt “nervous” myself too :mrgreen:
I would appreciate, if you find the time to take a deeper look at the FM the boys did there (i had no time, sorry).Long story short, NO reason to celebrate a drama where there is none. The lessons learnt (installer notification) and…moving on …
i am just saying that doing that in future will prevent people to connect in MP therefore WILL break BMS community
for the moment , no problema
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At the moment the only reason why we have to overwrite core files is because there is no other solution.
with all your respect, it may be time to learn F4patch
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i am just saying that doing that in future will prevent people to connect in MP therefore WILL break BMS community
for the moment , no problema
BMS memory validation + Simcheck =
@Dee-Jay: Noone cares about the stock korea database tbh. as each theater has its own (must have infact) database.
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Do not touch to Korean stock database unless it is clearly stated in mod/theater installer.
Not sure what you are talking about, but this is what you wrote
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with all your respect, it may be time to learn F4patch
Would everyone need to learn about it or only theatre creators?
Cheers
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@A.S:
Not sure what you are talking about, but this is what you wrote
I’m not in a joking nor playing mood A.S.
Database includes “sim” folder.
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I’m talking about “sim” folder.
Sim folder is Data Base now??? Every theater can have it’s own data base, like IT, BFS and BFB now. I just don’t understand all the fuzz about all this. Su-27 had no FM or a pit before. Now the person who want’s to fly Su-27 with others in A MP will want to get the Pit and rest of the stuff with it to enjoy it with others.
Except for the Su-27 we have not touched anything in the Stock BMS not even one number.
Now about People saying that we were not clear about the Su-27 changes there was lot of mention about it from the Installer to the Thread of Balkans. I except the responsibility of not putting this in my first post when we released it.
There are countless hours which were spent on this theater and frankly speaking it breaks my heart to see people trying to just take it down the Dark road with no end. I Personally apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused to anyone who installed it.
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Abraham Lincoln
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look the skins F-16+52 :shock:
i think is a bug!!! -
@ All.
Ok … It has been stated that Installer will warn ppl that their stock sim folder will be modified. Good with that. As A.S. … lets move on.
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I’m not in a joking nor playing mood A.S.
Database includes “sim” folder.
Database :\Falcon BMS 4.32\Data\Terrdata\objects aka the “Starfiles”
is one thing
and the :\Falcon BMS 4.32\Data\Sim content (global files)
are two COMPLETLY different things with COMPLETLY different roles and purposes. Always has been and still is within the file-structure of F4.
You can agree to disagree and there is really no need to chew any longer on this as we probably just got lost in translation before.
PS:
I need to add something to this before it goes the wrong direction:
And i, nor other people working outside of the DEV team on BMS, are not in the mood to read between the lines NOR to be told what they can and can not do with an open source free and not lawfully restricted simulation, which whole root history is based on the modding of previous commercial versions and which pure purpose and evolution is still based on the modding and the work of many - internally and/or externally. If you haven´t realized it yet, this IS what makes this sim so strong - not only the DEVs, but also the community ITSELF!
If few elitists practise a self-appointed right or status, to be the only choosen ones who determine, what can be done or not doesn´t matter, regardless what they believe. Reality check!
Nevertheless, we all have responsibilities towards eachother and we all have to find a common ground, as the work of insider DEVs is as much important as the one of the external developers and both should respect and listen to eachother for the better good - WITHOUT attitude nor such “will enforcing tone” of that kind. -
Do what you want inside data/Add-xxxxx folder. Do not touch to stock files or announce it clearly.
That’s all. Not dificlut. No big deal.
Thank you.
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Shit happens(ed). But i have a better solution for you: SIMCHECK, so NOONE can “touch” stock files (not only FM data).
Our thoughts are the same, just the language is different :mrgreen: