FO - Battle For Balkans Theater
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Mav’, I see no disadvantages, but advantages in a delocated SIM- folder,
4.33 will validate memory based the Simdata files and SIMCHECK (once finished lol) will control additional proceedures to ensure all crucial files (and more) are the same for everyone on competitive online multiplayer plattforms.
There is the problem
Singleplayer pilots/modders don´t have (see) that problem, i can understand that.
…time to go back to topic…no?
Thread: Battle For Balkans released
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Thanks for all your hard work (both BMS and theater devs), looking forward to to try out this new campaign over the next couple of days!
hoover
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AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE IS NOT THEATER DEPENDANT.
It is mod-dependent. Theaters are sometimes mods. Ergo, sometimes it is theater-dependent.
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It is mod-dependent. Theaters are sometimes mods. Ergo, sometimes it is theater-dependent.
ok
and in 3 years, we have 15 different version of BMS around depending on the “mods” …and then the game begins !!
The fact that Modders claim for independant DB or SIMDATA folders just shows that they dont agree with BMS’s Choices… and the dont bring sufficient evidence or arguments that their “modded DB or Dat file” shall be included in BMS.
That is why BMS will only support the offical release …and will not spend time on modded stuff.
Best practice for FM : Send modified Dat file WITH associated EM charts to BMS dev team for official DB inclusion
Because what will be next ? a F16 FM mod ? …
i can garantee that if this day comes, i will make sure F16 SIMDATA will be locked, because i have not spent 8 years of my life on something to let somone ruin this work
but i am sorry , i am mixing mod and theater, i thought Balkan was a theater …now i realize this is a MOD …then if this is a MOD, this may or may not work correctly in the near future…
by the way, have we a working blakan theater ? (because in 12 years i have never seen it working …)
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OK Mav but FM’s are just one part. What about the rest?
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Mav there are legitimate reasons to modify the FM for a theater, examples:
Non performance related:
1. Different 3D models which need different values for gear etc
2. Local country modifications such as number of chaff / flare, TGP, HTSPerformance related:
1. Different empty weight (upgrades again)
2. CFTs
3. Country specific missiles / bombs -
try it, maybe you love it. Is very nice. With the limitations the guys at FO have they did a very good job.
MOD, Theater, SIM, GAME who give a … Is great we all spent time in it. Lets appreciate that and move along… -
Mav there are legitimate reasons to modify the FM for a theater, examples:
Non performance related:
1. Different 3D models which need different values for gear etc
2. Local country modifications such as number of chaff / flare, TGP, HTSPerformance related:
1. Different empty weight (upgrades again)
2. CFTs
3. Country specific missiles / bombsmmhhhhh
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Well Echo7 according to Mav-jp sayings u can send those data and models to BMS and ask them to put them in.
The only problem here is that the theater developer must wait for the BMS update so that his theater will be as he wishes. -
Great relese
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The fact that Modders claim for independant DB …… folders just shows that they dont agree with BMS’s Choices…
To be very honest with you. The stock data base, which is made to serve as an universal db is indeed - sorry to say - not well made, almost SP4 ancient.
There have been soo many improvements made within, we could talk a week just elaborating details and flaws and errors. Don´t underestimate the brains outside Mav-Jp. People can be smart.But even IF the stock db would be “perfect”, each single theater NEEDS its own database, because it is just part of the theater editing as much as tiles and tacedit edits, part of the adjustments required for specific scenarious etc etc. SIM-data files should be at best uniform and global…totally agree.
We as external devs look very closly what you guys do and i have been told the DEVs also look what we do, which is good if true.
My personal wish would be more communication and cooperation between eachother and not this distanced working, because im 100% sure, that both would benefit from that.Imo, the only true solution, because with the same goals, we are not enemies.
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Wasn’t this the case that molny sent his stuff repeatedly, only to be ignored?
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please dont flame, try to be on topic
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@A.S:
The stock data base, which is made to serve as an universal db is indeed - sorry to say - not well made, almost SP4 ancient.
agreed
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Whats a SU-27 again?
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Whats a SU-27 again?
pretty targets
EDIT: i meant no disrespect for those that worked on the su-27 it looks fantastic. I was just making jokes.
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Actually, one could set up a fallback to standard DB for individual files. Then, AC would be able to be overridden without copying over the whole DB.
Why this evokes so much feeling and arrogance is beyond my understanding.
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Why this evokes so much feeling and arrogance is beyond my understanding.
I suspect the passion emanates from the period, about 2005 though 2011, when our community was fractured into at least four competing and incompatible versions of Falcon 4. Nobody wants to go there again; hence the strong feelings about uniformity.
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pretty targets
EDIT: i meant no disrespect for those that worked on the su-27 it looks fantastic. I was just making jokes.
Bring it on crazy & scraped as long as the 21s dont get you first and I’m still sober when you finaly get to the flot. :fart: