BMS Key File Help
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I’m using SimNextAAWeapon and SimNextAGWeapon.
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Ah that would be it, but I already fixed it just using the default BMS keyfile, I couldn’t find the UHF and VHF keys at first thats why I thought I had to use Kolbe’s.
Turns out there just called HOTAS-UHF and HOTAS-VHF…… doh :fart:
Still if you have a HOTAS with a LOT of buttons, I could imagine Kolbe’s keyfiles would be helpful, good job Kolbe! -
Does anybody know where the key is in Kolbe’s Stock Keyfile for what was called in the original keyfiles: Wpn- Cycle A-A/Cycle A-G in the original keyfile?
I need that to complete my mapping but i cant find itHi,
such callbacks are not present in my key files at the moment.
But most likely it will change in my next update. -
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I tried your full key profile 1.6 and……
:eek::eek:
OMG. You may say it is not the holly grail of the .key files but I disagree with u. IT IS.
Now I can map my controllers way, way faster. Now it makes sense.
thank you very much four your work. And good call by bms team to include it with the std BMS release.
I would go further and ask the devs to give a thought to make this .key profile the default profile.
Never coming back to the original one.
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First of all, thank you very much for your work. I’ve just discovered it and is helping a lot mapping the controls for my full replica cockpit.
I had an intense weekend reading and messing with .KEY and .XSL generators, etc… and I think I am getting the hung og it. But since it was a bit of info overload on the last two days maybe I missed some points:
-Reading the .KEY manual is clear that assigning keybinds from the BMS UI is to be totally avoid. But I understood assigning DX from UI is OK? Any adventages to do it editing the .KEY?
-When adding DX entries on the .KEY they go away from the BMS UI, is it normal? They appear to work fine in the sim though
-Flying Falcon for over a decade and always thought keybind profiling was the best and safest way to go because with DX you depending of windows placing your many devices (and there are MENY in a full cockpit). Now all I hear DX is the way to go, but how you handle changing, adding devices, wouldn’t it mess the windows list and therefore your assignation? Do you have to re-do your .KEY?. On the other hand the keybinds will always be the same…Thanks!
Tulkas
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First of all, thank you very much for your work. I’ve just discovered it and is helping a lot mapping the controls for my full replica cockpit.
You’re welcome
-Reading the .KEY manual is clear that assigning keybinds from the BMS UI is to be totally avoid. But I understood assigning DX from UI is OK? Any adventages to do it editing the .KEY?
Indeed you should avoid saving a key file in the UI as it could screw up your entire file. Sometimes it might work without side effects, sometimes not.
Regarding DX assignments: As soon as you hit the save button the entire file will be saved, not only the DX code lines. See remarks above.
Another disadvantage is, that you can’t assign functions to a shifted layer. Assignments are only possible for unshifted layers.-When adding DX entries on the .KEY they go away from the BMS UI, is it normal? They appear to work fine in the sim though
Yes, DX code lines are not shown in the UI.
-Flying Falcon for over a decade and always thought keybind profiling was the best and safest way to go because with DX you depending of windows placing your many devices (and there are MENY in a full cockpit). Now all I hear DX is the way to go, but how you handle changing, adding devices, wouldn’t it mess the windows list and therefore your assignation. While the keybinds will always be the same…
It depends. You are completely right. If you plug / unplug devices the order can change. And this will screw up your DX assignments. Not good for Pit builders.
DX assignments are save to use, if you have not many devices connected to your PC. Personally I run a Cougar, 2 MFDs and an ICP since ages without any issues.
I plug / unplug them regulary as I visit LAN events up to two times a year.Just make sure your PC is off if you unplug them and plug them in (PC off as well) to the same USB connectors.
Make your DX assignments when you are sure, you don’t have to add or remove devices in the future.But to be honest:
At the moment (as long as we don’t have the possibilty to add GUID strings to our DX code lines), I would also use keybindings to set my stuff up IF I were a pit builder.But the big advantage of DX is, that BMS knows the button positions as soon as you enter the sim which is not possible with keybindings.
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Hello Kolbe and the other Falcon BMS pilots,
first thanks to you for your great program “keyfile editor” and all the documentation stuff. Now i understand the key file.
I have a really simple question and i did not find still yet this information.
I try to find a documentation about all possible keys with a good explanation.
example.
AFGearToggle “Ckpit-Landing Gear” : This key allows the F-16 Block 52 to get out the gears from the plane. It is need to land on a runway.
SimToggleExtLights “Ckpit-Aircraft Lights” : This key activates the aircraft lights. Now you can see the runway.
….Exits such a documentation?!
Regards,
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Hello Kolbe and the other Falcon BMS pilots,
first thanks to you for your great program “keyfile editor” and all the documentation stuff. Now i understand the key file.
I have a really simple question and i did not find still yet this information.
I try to find a documentation about all possible keys with a good explanation.
example.
AFGearToggle “Ckpit-Landing Gear” : This key allows the F-16 Block 52 to get out the gears from the plane. It is need to land on a runway.
SimToggleExtLights “Ckpit-Aircraft Lights” : This key activates the aircraft lights. Now you can see the runway.
….Exits such a documentation?!
Regards,
MarvelNot yet. At least I’ve never seen such a doc.
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Ok, i did not find such a documentation too.
Another question. I have take a look to the BMS-Keyfile Generator 1_6.xls
There are a lot of Keys inside this Excel Document, but the most important
are not inside.Example which i miss:
SimRadarAAModeStep -1 0 0X3B 0 0 0 1 “Radar-A to A”
SimRadarAGModeStep -1 0 0X3C 0 0 0 1 “Radar-A to G”
SimRadarElevationDown -1 0 0X3F 0 0 0 1 “Radar-Antenna Tilt Down”
SimRadarElevationUp -1 0 0X41 0 0 0 1 “Radar-Antenna Tilt Up”
SimRadarElevationCenter -1 0 0X40 0 0 0 1 “Radar-Antenna Center”
BombRippleDecrement -1 0 0X27 1 0 0 1 “Wpn-Bomb Ripple Dec”
BombRippleIncrement -1 0 0X28 1 0 0 1 “Wpn-Bomb Ripple Inc”
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and 50 other.Exists there a documentation of all SimKey-Names like SimRadarAAModeStep and others?!
Regards,
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Maybe i have found a documentation of all keys.
In the Falcon BMS Folder exist the file keyfile-generator.xls.
Inside this is a sheet with a description and all keys. Maybe this file contains 100%.
Regards,
Marvel -
Good call…I missed that. In the keyfile generator xls - under “Keystroke Editor” is a short description…lol…thanks for ur advice…:)
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Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but how does one completely unmap ones HOTAS esp. the Buttons?
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Hi Mike,
this is rather simple, assuming you mean the DX assignments.
Open your key file with an editor. Scroll all the way down.
You’ll notice, that the appearence of the code lines will change.
First you have something like this: SimTriggerFirstDetent -1 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 1 “STICK: FIRST TRIGGER DETENT”
At the end of your file you’ll find this: SimTriggerFirstDetent 0 -1 -2 0 0x0 0
Delete the latter ones.
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I am trying to figure a way to bind one of my X45 buttons to the Teamspeak PTT function. It would require me to get rid of Cursor Enable, but I never seem to need to use that. I thought I swapped the right callbacks around in my keyfile, but the button is still Cursor Enable.
I see I can use the actual throttle button in Teamspeak options, will BMS still honor that even if it’s set to CursorEnable?
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Yes,
if you assign both (PTT & Cursor enable) via DX both functions will be invoked at the same time once the button is pressed. -
Hi Kolbe.
I just try to figure out how to fly the Eagle after long time again (Original Falcon4 was my last experience)
Sorry maybe I am just too stupid but if I try to get the ECM working(Jamming) nothing happens if I use Shift-Alt-i and Shift- Alt-o.
No Switch changes the position and the green Enbl or what the sign is for working ECM does not appear(Near the Master Arm Switch)I´m realy not experienced in the Syntax of this SIM.Afair in the old game the commands where much easier to understand and recognaice what is what.
I use your full key v1.6.And btw I dont have any Hotas -like Stuff, just an simple Extreme 3D pro Stick.
Maybe you can find the mistake I made?Solved got an unrecognised mapping cange for cms keys.All working fine. sorry
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hi could you help please
ive been learning this great sim for a few days now and no wonder why I am struggling a lot of the keys as STD are not mapped like
dms down etc
does this map all keys so at least i dont have to go through them all ?
I see the files in the BMS folder how do i install them?
Thanks
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I am trying to find the Datalink (on?) key. People I fly with don’t use your keystrokes and have inadequate hardware, so their shortcut for datalink is CTRL + O. I saw the callback for it in the Excel file, but is it listed in the Setup/Controllers screen? Or better yet is there a button in the 3D pit I can look for? I know I click ASSGN on MFD and it turns to CONT but thats when I’m told to hit CTRL O