AGM88 from high alt strangeness :O
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For accuracy, use the Weapons page with preplanned waypoints. If you have to use HAD mode, donât fire until you see the proverbial white in the SAM crewâs eyes, unless they fire at you, in which case you return the favour with a HARM and take evasive action. If they donât turn off their radar, the HARM will have no issues tracking.
Concur. Most of my deliveries with HARMs is through the weapons page. Especially, when other radars are also in the area.
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Whatâs that suppose to mean? Are you a real world âWeaselâ jockey?
Lulz, no but I play one on TV. TTL is âtime to liveâ itâs used to describe when computer programming timeouts happen. Itâs a programmer slang. Also jive means âagree.â
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Hey, nice! Where can see that TV show/series?
About the missile -
Not sure 200 seconds are enough to provide a > 100 km shot (especially when the missile is doing a 45 degrees climb). Does this 200 seconds limit is verified by a pilot/technician (probably not, as it is a military secret). Also what happened after TTL time expired? Self destruction? -
Most of dat files values are just assumption and not accurate because of the age of these filesâŚ
BTW ~100 km effective range is not true for AGM-88. In not 100% theoretical cases even at high alt the RL eng. envelope is smaller than ~60 km⌠The missile which was landed in Bulgaria during AF went to ballistic because of internal power supply went out way before reached 100 km from the point of the launch.
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Also what happened after TTL time expired? Self destruction?
Most likely yeah.
Not sure 200 seconds are enough to provide a > 100 km shot
Well, the max range shot at about 20-25 000ft is what-30nm (I could be wrong about this one) and itâs a ~3:00min (180 sec) flight time, so far it makes sense the way itâs simâed, any higher alt than that and youâre extending the flight time and entering the zone past 200 secs, but this is ridiculous, it should be a flexable figure this, it should reflect the different parameters at which youâre employing
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The missile which was landed in Bulgaria during AF went to ballistic because of internal power supply went out way before reached 100 km from the point of the launch.
Where you got this? I didnât find anything like thatâŚ. If power is lost, why didnât destruct itself?
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Going to jump in here with something not mentioned yet. The HARM can âloiterâ. That means when the missile is fired, it can hover/orbit for a short time. I suspect that the missile uses the kinetic energy built up from launch and itâs own fuel to attain speeds that enable it to loiter over the tracking area assigned to it. I do not think that is modeled, but it does support the flight time variable mookar has suggested.
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Are you sure about that? âHarpyâ could loiter, but HARMâŚ.
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I donât think so. Maybe you think about the Alarm?
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HARM doesnât loiter AFAIK, ALARM could do that, though. with a parachute, i think.
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I donât think so. Maybe you think about the Alarm?
well, the HARM has a limited ability to glide. If Target Isolate is not enabled, it can glide for an unspecified (and classified) period, or switch to another target type (flex).
would be nice to know how long/far it can glide for.
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Not sure if this was mentioned, but there is a âbubbleâ in which things materialize in the 3d world, and itâs certainly not infinite. Iâve taken MAX range shots at high angels/smash before, then turned around and immediately burned out of the area. By the time the HARM shouldâve hit, Iâve already exited the bubble and the target dematerialized before the missile was able to hit. In the ACMI it showed nothing but barren landâŚ.
Oh yea, something else that Iâve been retarded enough to doâŚMake sure its not behind a building?
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Not sure if this was mentioned, but there is a âbubbleâ in which things materialize in the 3d world, and itâs certainly not infinite. Iâve taken MAX range shots at high angels/smash before, then turned around and immediately burned out of the area. By the time the HARM shouldâve hit, Iâve already exited the bubble and the target dematerialized before the missile was able to hit. In the ACMI it showed nothing but barren landâŚ.
Oh yea, something else that Iâve been retarded enough to doâŚMake sure its not behind a building?
That depends on the target bubble. I think if the missile is locked when the target wants to re-agg then itâll keep it deagged. If the missile isnât locked I think itâs possible for the target to re-agg and miss for that reason.
Hey, nice! Where can see that TV show/series?
About the missile -
Not sure 200 seconds are enough to provide a > 100 km shot (especially when the missile is doing a 45 degrees climb). Does this 200 seconds limit is verified by a pilot/technician (probably not, as it is a military secret). Also what happened after TTL time expired? Self destruction?200 sec is enough for a 73nm shot which is 135km. I think in BMS the missile simply vanishes (I canât remember with or without explosion) when they timeout.
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I suspect that the missile uses the kinetic energy built up from launch and itâs own fuel to attain speeds that enable it to loiter over the tracking area assigned to it
The HARM is reported as a âloiteringâ missile but a parachute is not mentioned, the ALARM has that feature along with a parachute for sure. However the AGM88 has INS guidance anyway so it doesnât need to loiter, even if the tgt radar shuts down the round âremembersâ the last known coords and goes for them
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well, the HARM has a limited ability to glide. If Target Isolate is not enabled, it can glide for an unspecified (and classified) period, or switch to another target type (flex).
would be nice to know how long/far it can glide for.
That is what I was talking about. It does have a âglideâ mode. Loiter might be the wrong term to use.
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Perhaps âenduranceâ mode that prefers higher TOF in acquire mode instead of minimizing TTI.
AGM-88D has GPS/INS. The earlier HARM has some gyros or something but models A-C probably didnât have super high Pk if not guiding all the way on ARH.
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AGM-88D has GPS/INS
Some pilots claim that models previous to the âDâ also guide to coords
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They do which is why POS-EOM shots work. Itâs gotta some sort of autopilot. But a radar van is a tiny target and the warhead is tiny. I donât think the A-C models had enough precision if not actively homing say if the emitter at five miles.
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Where you got this? I didnât find anything like thatâŚ. If power is lost, why didnât destruct itself?
I do not know, maybe the self destruciton also was not functional. I have never heard about longer planned launch distance than 60-70 km because of kinematics and power supply limitations.
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I do not know, maybe the self destruciton also was not functional. I have never heard about longer planned launch distance than 60-70 km because of kinematics and power supply limitations.