Israeli Theater 1.0.3 for BMS 4.33.3+
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Thank you so much for making this theater. As a fan of Iron Eagle, I’m getting a kick of flying Israeli F-16s just like what were used in the movie, with the same camo. Its awesome!
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I just complete and win two campaigns… great mod!!
the road network system is working and I witness GUs moving to capture key objectives…IDF moving into Berut,Damascus, Cairo, Port Saad… lots ground offensive operation…in the air, fighting against Egyptian Rafale and Mirage2000 is most challenging.
simply put - lots fun.
BTW the mod definitely can support a 1973 YKW campaign, the road network is ok.
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can Israeli Theater 1.0.3 for BMS 4.33.3 be installed on top of version 1.0.1?
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Thanks for that great work, really nice !
Perhaps this thread (and always the latest version of the theater) should be sticky?
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Will there be an .exe down Load for this Theater mod any time soon
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leblonk,
Get the torrent from the first post…. -
The torrent gets flagged as an unsafe webpage
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Thank You.
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NP Leblonk
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Hey stupid question: Is there no Anti-Radiation Missile in the IAF? No HTS?
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Hey stupid question: Is there no Anti-Radiation Missile in the IAF? No HTS?
No ARM weapons in IAF inverntory as far as we know.
and HTS is mainly a US thing, however, there are some publication about IAF ELINT capabilities, and the exceed BMS scope, in order to compensate for that we gave the two-seater F-16s (D & I) a built in HTS. It works just as you expect it to. but you don’t need to load it upthere are some threads around about hunting down SAMs in ITO, however, our VFS’ favorite technique involves hunding them down the HTS, and Delilah missiles. Takes some time to learn how to operate it properly in this scenario, but it works in a most satisfying manner.
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Hey stupid question: Is there no Anti-Radiation Missile in the IAF? No HTS?
Interesting article on the latest Israeli strike speculating that it was either the Popeye or the Delilah in a DEAD role.
https://theaviationist.com/2017/03/17/syria-claims-it-shot-down-an-israeli-combat-plane-israel-denies-dissecting-the-last-iaf-strike-on-damascus/There is a general opinion with some air power minds, including a lot of the Israelis, that actually HARMs are not that effective to take out SAMs, they are really mostly effective as a suppression tool. I can’t remember the specific quote right now but a famous Israeli fight pilot had a quote that the best anti-SAM weapon was a 500 pound bomb delivered on the site.
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Hmm kinda pain in the ass to be honest… against mobile SAM working with an armored bataillon pretty useless…
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Hmm kinda pain in the ass to be honest… against mobile SAM working with an armored bataillon pretty useless…
Ha? Just like any weapons, you need to practice with it, and believe me when you are done, you’ll find it’s the most fun weapons to use.
And JFYI, in RL ARMs aren’t all that efficient, in BMS they are too efficient because of dumb AI brain for the SAM systems. In reality ARMs are mainly used to force enemy SAMs to shut down the radars, but not necessarily to hit them.
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Setting the ada skill Level to ace kind of gives you this expierience. Sams hiding themselves by only “blinking” momentarily to get a picture and coordinating launches to spring the trap once you entered it. It is a tactic used by the serbs during OP AF in bosnia around 1999, since they knew about the f16s presence and their capability to launch homing missiles against them, but HARMs Need some sort of Emission to home onto. Old SA-x Systems having their Radars on constantly therefore is not very realistic. Different thing with IADS using semi active SAMs.
Comparable with submarines using single sonar pings for distance measurement in combat. No sub would leave it on permanently. -
Ha? Just like any weapons, you need to practice with it, and believe me when you are done, you’ll find it’s the most fun weapons to use.
And JFYI, in RL ARMs aren’t all that efficient, in BMS they are too efficient because of dumb AI brain for the SAM systems. In reality ARMs are mainly used to force enemy SAMs to shut down the radars, but not necessarily to hit them.
My problem is, that you can’t use the HAD to directly mark a SAM position. Despite the fact that the HAD would never generate accurate coordinates likes this (trust me) you have to get way too close in to find an SA-8,6,11,17… with the Sniper POD. The advantage of an ARM (ALARM, AARGM, HARM, HCSM or even SHRIKE) that it is there before you enter the lethal range of the SAM, because 1 on 1 they will always win. No fighter pilot would be so stupid to search for the TAR/TELAR inside the Missile engagement zone without a window of SEAD support (can be a Jammer also, right?) because that’s suicide. At least on mobile systems, stationary systems (SA-2,3,5) different story.
JFYI if you want to learn more on that note…;-)https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?22341-Tactics-for-dealing-with-a-SAM-nest&p=323417#post323417
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My problem is, that you can’t use the HAD to directly mark a SAM position. Despite the fact that the HAD would never generate accurate coordinates likes this (trust me) you have to get way too close in to find an SA-8,6,11,17… with the Sniper POD. The advantage of an ARM (ALARM, AARGM, HARM, HCSM or even SHRIKE) that it is there before you enter the lethal range of the SAM, because 1 on 1 they will always win. No fighter pilot would be so stupid to search for the TAR/TELAR inside the Missile engagement zone without a window of SEAD support (can be a Jammer also, right?) because that’s suicide. At least on mobile systems, stationary systems (SA-2,3,5) different story.
JFYI if you want to learn more on that note…;-)https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?22341-Tactics-for-dealing-with-a-SAM-nest&p=323417#post323417
Getting used to the Delilah weapon is a matter of practice, try it and you will find that you can kill any mobile SAM without getting into the battery range. The only exceptions are SA-10 and Patriot but those you can kill by using the HAD only. See videos I recorded back then:
And fancy example of Delilah killing an SA-6 FCR after a go-around session (Advanced capability - which I recorded after I finished all features of the development):
FWIW, in our VFS we are using Delilah to hunt mobile SAMs and sometimes we do it without using the TGP at all, just firing on the HAD symbol location and searching with the Delilah camera. It works, and great fun as well
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There is a file called “dds_textures” of 1.8GB in Terrdata/objects/ It’s normal ?
Thanks for the support.