The 7=11 Navigation Method
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The 7=11 Navigational Method
I wanted to use my DTC options to assist me in getting locations of alternate AFB’s without taking my eyes of the situation around me.
Or having to consult the electronic flightbag app, or printed charts/lists/notes/kneepad pages and so on.This gives me:
- greater situational awareness (SA)
- giving me navigational aids to get to an alternate AFB quickly and easily
- having the tower frequencies to those alternate AFB’s without searching
I have UHF frequencies, PPT’s and precision steerpoints to program. Combining those will give me three things:
- a visual cue on my HSD
- A stored steerpoint which I can punch in and fly towards
- a corresponding UHF frequency to the tower of that alternate.
I figured a way to have all of these at your fingertips with existing tools:
- Weapons Delivery Planner (get it here: http://www.weapondeliveryplanner.nl/)
- 2d map
- Pen and paper
So, how do I do this?
Let’s reserve the first 10 for flightplan use. The rest (11 through 24) are now precision steerpoints to assign to alternate airbases.
Same goes for UHF frequencies. Why assign the tower to UHF 15 and guard to UHF 13, while not using the other 18? So let’s move all of the UHF frequencies to the first 5. Guard on 1, Proximity to 2. Tanker 3, JTAC on 4, tower homeplate on 5. UHF 6 is open to assign at your own discretion (tanker, chattermark, JTAC etc.
This frees up UHF 7-20 for tower frequencies.This means that I mapped out 13 alternate airbases in steerpoints 11 through 24. With corresponding UHF frequencies 7 through 20.
UHF (is equal to this) PRECISION STEERPOINT
7 11
8 12
9 13
10 14
(and so on)Instructional video’s and INI contents
[Korea INI contents (stp’s, ppt’s, freq’s)](https://www.dropbox.com/s/ekqnxqk7js1k5zy/INI contents Korea.txt?dl=0)
Notes
The flexibility of this system is such, that you can alter and use it to you own liking. Some examples:
- setting UHF 16-20 to precision steerpoint 16-20: they match 1-on-1 then.
- setting up the 7-11 system without the PPT’s: empty HSD but all the system stored ‘under the hood’.
Tying together the waypoints, PPT’s and UHF frequencies is what this is about.
Feel free to adjust, improve, alter and tweak this to your own liking.
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Hi Buster,
Thank you so much for this method. It makes things (especially navigation much easier.
Have a great day and fly safe.
Regards,
Tweety -
Thanks! If you need any help or want custom INI stuff for instance for other theatres, let me know or PM me.
Safe Skies!
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Hi Buster,
no, thank you. So tonight is Hobby-Night and I will implement all the necessary data and give it a try.
Thanks for the offer, but so fare mostly I’m flying in the KTO, due to some more realistic radio commands with the tower and a shorter distance to the target
Have a great day and I let you if it worked out, which I don’t doubt.
Fly safe and aim high,
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I will also try that…. Thank you
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Tried it. NICE!
But a few hickups. No problems though. This should be added to the next up date. Easy enough to do. Should be a good and easy implimentation.
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hickups? please do tell…. I tested it to be ‘perfect’ before posting so if there is anything I missed? And it is an idea to tweak to your own liking. It is basically tying together three already available systems to provide you with an excellent SA on navigation. Without losing sight of the SAM’s, flightplan, pre-planned steerpoints and precision steerpoints.
Any Q’s - PM
Thanks guys for the support on this idea -
The files and info provided are for KTO. Any other theatres, make them yourself or if you need help let me know.
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Tried it. NICE!
But a few hickups. No problems though. This should be added to the next up date. Easy enough to do. Should be a good and easy implimentation.
That would require a number of users to strip it back out of the next update.
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hickups? please do tell…. I tested it to be ‘perfect’ before posting so if there is anything I missed? And it is an idea to tweak to your own liking. It is basically tying together three already available systems to provide you with an excellent SA on navigation. Without losing sight of the SAM’s, flightplan, pre-planned steerpoints and precision steerpoints.
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Thanks guys for the support on this ideaHa ha
My hickups. Got it to go though. Great!
@BW,
I dont think it would be that intensive to impliment. If anything, you still have to set up your DTC but you could still get the HSD info. Dont see that as a big issue.
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Ha ha
My hickups. Got it to go though. Great!
@BW,
I dont think it would be that intensive to impliment. If anything, you still have to set up your DTC but you could still get the HSD info. Dont see that as a big issue.
I think it would be quite easy for the devs to implement it in the sim. That said, I personally would not want my sim set up that way, and would have to go ahead and revert those changes if an update applied them for me.
The entire thing is just DTC settings so I am not sure what you mean by ‘getting HSD info’.
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The tread is about the 7=11 nav method. Please don’t hijack the subject.
It is NOT about ‘just DTC settings’. Read the article, watch the vids.
Using the DTC to get this result is a means to an end. The DTC is a tool. The goal is to aid SA and a quick way to navigate to alternates with the correct tower frequency. All at your fingertips with existing and available tools (PPT’s, steerpoints, UHF frequency banks).
Again, read the article, try it out, and then provide feedback or PM me if there anybody has any questions or needs help with this.
The ‘method’ I promote here is using existing tools in BMS to give a pilot the three things I mention in the article.
It is about tying together PPT’s, UHF freq’s, and (precision)steerpoints to greatly enhance the navigational options a pilot has. -
The tread is about the 7=11 nav method.Please don’t hijack the subject.
If a user makes a comment in the thread suggesting it become default as part of BMS, I reserve the right to comment my opinion on their suggestion, so long as the post made is not violating forum rules. Hence ‘fora’, no?
It is NOT about ‘just DTC settings’. Read the article, watch the vids.
I read the article through several times trying to ‘get’ what it is that is revolutionary about it. Watched the video (first one), too. Maybe its just that its not something the average BMS user thinks about? Thus far it appears to just be setting your DTC intelligently. I went so far as questioning the part I seem to be missing, about ‘getting HSD info’. You then accuse me of hijacking the subject.
Using the DTC to get this result is a means to an end. The DTC is a tool. The goal is to aid SA and a quick way to navigate to alternates with the correct tower frequency. All at your fingertips with existing and available tools (PPT’s, steerpoints, UHF frequency banks).
Again, read the article, try it out, and then provide feedback or PM me if there anybody has any questions or needs help with this.
The ‘method’ I promote here is using existing tools in BMS to give a pilot the three things I mention in the article.
It is about tying together PPT’s, UHF freq’s, and (precision)steerpoints to greatly enhance the navigational options a pilot has.Okay, the DTC is a tool, got it… but it is one which is already being used by quite a few people.
You have a method, and it apparently works for you. Thats GREAT. seriously. Its also great that you are sharing it. Loads of people can probably benefit from it.
The only part I take issue with, is the suggestion (NOT made by you) that it be implemented as the default DTC setting for BMS. Is that a little clearer?
EDIT: as long as I have you here, I might as well question why you have each steerpoint added twice, once in the STPTs 01-24 range, and once in the STPTs 56-70 range? Seems like it would be less system clutter to have them just the once, no?
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To answer your question about the steerpoints: yes I added them twice. The demonstration I made has all the alternates in there, all the PPT’s and all the frequencies. Therefore, the precision steerpoints are 11 through 24. The PPT’s are all in there in steerpoints 56-70. You can tweak this idea to suit your needs. You can only put in 5 alternate airbases for example.
But for demonstration purposes I put them all in there. my video ‘operational demonstration’ (vid 2) shows this. Why? Well:
1. The steerpoints are there to access when needed, you can flip through them and see which one is closest and find the corresponding frequency quickly.
2. The PPT’s are in there so your HSD will show the alternate location in relevance to your position and attitude.
3. Added benefit is that you can make your HSD the active MFD, slew the cursor and TMSup and select the alternate that way. This will result in selecting a PPT, say steerpoint 56, and finding the tower frequency.7=11. Steerpoint 11 is equal to UHF 7.
From a PPT point of view: 56=7. steerpoint 56 is equal to UHF 7.You can tweak this to your own liking: put in only the PPT’s, or only the steerpoints. You can do what you want with it.
I hope pilots can use it and benefit from it.
And yes you can say what you want to say, and question, comment, share or debunk anything. Please do, it will make things better. -
Hey “Buster”,
I adapted this slightly but the principle of getting to a friendly base, and talking to the tower, when you need to with minimum of fuss was a “Eureka” moment and I am very grateful you shared this with the wider community - good work mate !!!
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Haha yes it’s Poppy, but I had this name on BMS forums before and I haven’t been able to change it yet
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knew that ;0)
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I wonder who this Ironman53rd is?
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Tried it. NICE!
But a few hickups. No problems though. This should be added to the next up date. Easy enough to do. Should be a good and easy implimentation.
Again @BW,
No where did I say to add this as “default”. In fact, you can disable it quite easily. I have anproblem when people put words into my posts that simply arnt there. -
I find it inpossible to reconcile your words across your posts, but it seems I have either misconstrued your meaning, or you think it simple to add and remove. Either way I suggest that in deference to Poppy’s/Buster’s wishes, if you wish to discuss this further, we take it to PM.