BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal
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Good Day, All. Back from the desert and “back at work”. Somebody asked about the difference between stock BMS and our Stuff. So, perhaps a reminder…The Other Fighters Mafia was formed to celebrate what we call the Other Jets (ie: other then the Viper) in BMS. The OFM Theaters use some differences in the database in order to include our versions/additions of those . We also include things like the AIM-120D, various a/g ordinance, etc. Yes, all run in BMS 4.37U2. They are standalone installs so they won’t mess with the base KTO (or vice versa). https://discord.com/channels/797936162638659594/1021169991367806976 is our release channel on Discord.
To avoid confusion, we always include OFM in the Theater’s name. In some cases, we built on the great work by the BMS Devs and the Balkans Team, yielding OFMKTO and OFM-Balkans . Some, like Nevada, etc., are Theaters created largely by Chuckles that we refine and keep current with our ever-evolving database. The latest version is 1.8.1, but all those listed in OFM-release still work in U2. All our theaters use the same database, so the difference between, say, OFM Nevada 1.81 and OFM-Balkans 1.81 is the geography and campaigns.
Speaking of the campaigns, we try to mix things up for your enjoyment. Generally, the first 3 will be more “old school”, and the last 3 more modern. -
@asleepwater said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@drtbkj Hi,drtbkj Thank you for your team’s efforts. May I ask where can I see the screenshot and video of the development module? I think it is very attractive! Hael!
Hi, Asleepwater. If you’re talking about Farazparsa and Sammy Skycrafts’ work specifically, we would need to talk to them. However, generally, you’re not the first to ask for YT vids and screenshots. It is something we’d like to do more of. Our Youtube channel is https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfGGjXgjy8AbNB0Kfxuv4YQ. There’s not too much there ,yet, but we’re working on it…
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One more update for this afternoon, then I’m going flying . A few days ago we brought you the Super Pak. We’ve graded that a bit, adding auto throttle to the F-18F, etc. The new link is… https://www.mediafire.com/file/ptpt1rtriga4l8y/Joe+Steidl-OFM+Super+Files+Pak+10-4-23-2023108-2495.zip/file
The included README explains it all.We are very interested in your feedback. Would you like to see these in our future releases?
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Good Day, All. Brother Jackal has created a TE Pak for Libya. https://www.mediafire.com/file_premium/r41wljv1y1o6dic/Jackal%2527s_Libya_OFM_custom_TE%252Bppt.zip/file
Just unzip it and add to 4.37/data/Add-On Libya/campaignAlso, there is a TE Pak in the works for OFM-Balkans
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Good Day, All. Today I have a bit of a general update. Let’s call it Mafia Mindset 101 . We were talking over in our Discord about a couple of loadout issues in our new OFM-Balkans Theater. That got me thinking of something…
We try to keep things as real as possible. BUT, there is an element of “what IS possible” For example, AIM-120’s on the F-18 wingtips. The US Navy never did that. The USAF did on the Viper, though. So, hopefully it would be possible. We made a decision a long time ago to, as I’ve always said, to “offer options”. Things like the Slammers, Mav-D TER’s, our Super Tomcat with SLAM, etc. But, everyone has a different threshold of how “real” they want it. We acknowledge that some people want max realism. We know we can’t please everyone, and we certainly don’t mind if you don’t load the stuff. I’ve known people for a long time that simply won’t try the Hornet(OFM or stock) because of the Viper avionics. So, the core of our mindset is to offer things like the above as options. But, with the full knowledge that people can choose, and have the option, not to use them.
However, we do want our Theaters to be the best we can make them. We want to please as many people as we can. We know we can’t please everyone, but we have fun trying. We always welcome input from the BMS Family -
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Good Day, All. I’m back from the Dez and noticed this thread is no longer pinned. I have written the Devs requesting clarification and reinstatement.
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Good Day, All. The Dev’s kindly replied… This thread will be moving, and pinned, in Community Mods and Tools.
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One more update for today…
We’ve made a Tac Pak for OFM-Balkans.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/yib0i6iya98y83m/OFM-Balkans+1.8.2+Tac+Pak.7z/file
Brother Jackal has refined the stock TE’s, plus there’s a "bonus addition of the SA-10 Strike TE.
Also, we got a request from our resident Italian Stallion to refine the Sigonella and Brindisi Airbases and Sigonella NAS.
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Please stand and hold still all, Gentlemen.
“Another mates” have released their major update and all things from the past aren’t compatible any longer, as seems… long awaited U3, welcome!
Ah, how competition with other fellows might make you pushWith best regards to all.
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Good Day, All
is exciting. Not only for the Eagle itself. Having a ramp start capable twin engine jet with independent engine starting in BMS is hopefully translatable to our jets. Hopefully, it just new callbacks
I just wanted to let everyone know we’ve started investigating converting our stuff for U3 .Also, this -
@drtbkj any chance to see what this means for OFM?
4.37.3 Changelog:
"Systems (Other Planes):- Tornado Basic HUD implementation
- F-18C FCR Basic implementation
- F-18C SMS initial implementation
- F-18C HSD initial implementation
- F-18C HUD NAV initial implementation
- F-18C scan range adapted
- F-18C PRF mode changes bar scan bar elevation
- F-4E A/A Radar Initial Implementation"
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OFM folks, this F15 is not a F16 under a new cover. It is a really new implementation (yes there are still some F16 bits there). The door is being opened for new stuff, as you can see with some of the changes. You are not alone
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@drtbkj said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
Good Day, All
is exciting. Not only for the Eagle itself. Having a ramp start capable twin engine jet with independent engine starting in BMS is hopefully translatable to our jets. Hopefully, it just new callbacks
I just wanted to let everyone know we’ve started investigating converting our stuff for U3 .Also, thisNot yet. This is F15 specific. Please be patient… this is just the beginning.
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@Seifer said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@drtbkj said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
Good Day, All
is exciting. Not only for the Eagle itself. Having a ramp start capable twin engine jet with independent engine starting in BMS is hopefully translatable to our jets. Hopefully, it just new callbacks
I just wanted to let everyone know we’ve started investigating converting our stuff for U3 .Also, thisNot yet. This is F15 specific. Please be patient… this is just the beginning.
Hi, Seifer. Of course, but still you guys did a great job. I see LOTS of potential.
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@Snake122 said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@drtbkj any chance to see what this means for OFM?
4.37.3 Changelog:
"Systems (Other Planes):- Tornado Basic HUD implementation
- F-18C FCR Basic implementation
- F-18C SMS initial implementation
- F-18C HSD initial implementation
- F-18C HUD NAV initial implementation
- F-18C scan range adapted
- F-18C PRF mode changes bar scan bar elevation
- F-4E A/A Radar Initial Implementation"
Try to guess “how many issues” coming out one by one instead, Fra’.
It’s a “three-headed mice” experiment this one too, I’m afraid - and I’m really hoping I will be wrong, but I have strange bad feelings on it.
Let’s see what happens this time, who knows?With best regards.
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@Seifer said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
OFM folks, this F15 is not a F16 under a new cover. It is a really new implementation (yes there are still some F16 bits there). The door is being opened for new stuff, as you can see with some of the changes. You are not alone
Seifer, you got that right! As I was looking at the Eagle, I found it strange. There’s now other avionics in BMS! It’s a definite mind-set change.
Snake, I’ve only briefly flown the Hornet in U3, but I am noticing changes. For one thing, the MFD pages are very Hornet-esque. Exciting, indeed. Is there any info on what theses changes are/do? I don’t see anything in Docs.
All, we have taken a preliminary look at converting the OFM theaters to U3. The good news we’re pretty sure we can do so. At the moment we know what to do, and are researching the best way to go about it.
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@drtbkj said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@Seifer said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
OFM folks, this F15 is not a F16 under a new cover. It is a really new implementation (yes there are still some F16 bits there). The door is being opened for new stuff, as you can see with some of the changes. You are not alone
Seifer, you got that right! As I was looking at the Eagle, I found it strange. There’s now other avionics in BMS! It’s a definite mind-set change.
Snake, I’ve only briefly flown the Hornet in U3, but I am noticing changes. For one thing, the MFD pages are very Hornet-esque. Exciting, indeed. Is there any info on what theses changes are/do? I don’t see anything in Docs.
All, we have taken a preliminary look at converting the OFM theaters to U3. The good news we’re pretty sure we can do so. At the moment we know what to do, and are researching the best way to go about it.
As a workaround of sorts, as soon as I get a moment I’ll post a way to keep an active U2 and U3.That’s just the spirit here, Fra’… by the matter, please always count on all that few I can do about, of course.
With best regards.
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Good Day, All. Here are a few updates…
- First, the Theater conversion process is on going. Cougar in the Balkans Team sent us some stuff that will be very helpful. It’s times like this that I appreciate the community we have in BMS
- Meanwhile, there are a couple of immediate issues.
a) Some of us had trouble with throttles in twin engine jets. They were stuck at idle in 3D. The workaround to get them working is to add set g_bUseXInput 0 to x/4.37.3/user/Config/Falcon BMS.cfg.
b) Also, I am told that some of the MFD pages in the new Hornets are still WIP and don’t do certain things, yet . There is a workaround that reverts to the old avionics
Add to BMS.cfg as above
set g_bEnableWIPF18Avionics 0
set g_bEnableWIPF4Avionics 0
set g_bEnableWIPTornadoAvionics 0
And you can change the zero to 1 to “reactivate” the new avionics - While we convert the U2 OFM Theaters, we wanted a way to keep you flying, albeit in U2.There is a way to have a working U2 and a U3, if you haven’t upgraded yet. If any of you are interested, let me know here and I’ll post it. It’s not a complicated process.
I want to add that we consider Items 2-3 above to be workarounds only. We are extremely grateful to the BMS Devs for what they have given us in U3. Other Jets’ avionics has been the dream for a very long time. Personally, I’ll be focusing on U3 with the Hornet av’s enabled, even if at the moment I “only” fly KTO and Balkans
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@drtbkj shouldn’t it be added in Falcon BMS user.cfg instead of Falcon BMS.cfg?
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@Ferde said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@drtbkj shouldn’t it be added in Falcon BMS user.cfg instead of Falcon BMS.cfg?
Hi, Ferde. My understanding has been that anything placed in user.cfg will “override” the regular. And, the advantage of user is that a bms.cfg can and often is changed, but your values in user stay the same. If that’s not the case, somebody please let me know.
All that aside, you are correct, user is probably better. I was just trying to get us in the air so I suggested using BMS.cfg as I knew that worked.