Mission 5 aar is sooooo harrrrddddd
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ive been trying for hours but for some strange reason the tanker wont extend the refuelling boom, i tried looking up youtube vids for 4.34, only found .33 and .32 and no actual tutorials. the manuals didnt help either. i feel so stupid omg sometimes i wish i chose the a10 just so i could brrrt the kc 135 into oblivion. if anybody could give a step by step guide i would be very thankful
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Full AAR Training mission with siome tips I made with 4.34
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Do this: stop trying to connect on the boom.
First, learn to fly the tanker’s wing fingertip: left side, right side, wings level, in the turn; once you master flying formation on the tanker (and it’s quite the albatross) start practicing your refueling. For precontract place your gun cross on the tip of the boom - once cleared to contact find the sweet spot (director lights extinguish - then hold it there. Also, it’s a sight picture thing - many folks turn their HUD off to learn the sight picture of where to be in the sweet spot.
Good luck - and yes it takes a lot of practice
Cheers
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Moreover, boom is not being extended probably because you’re not on its frequency.
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which means he probably doesn’t have his door open nor RTFM either
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BTW…Master Arm On, Dogfight Override, second trigger… tanker is Brrrrrrt…
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wiggle your toes
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thank you so much, i really owe you one. now i can fly long haul missions for once without running out of fuel halfway there
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Also make sure to hum a tune to relax while connected. I’ve composed a special “tanker tune” that I hum when refuelling
All the best,
uwe
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Also make sure to hum a tune to relax while connected. I’ve composed a special “tanker tune” that I hum when refuelling
All the best,
uwe
“Gimme fuel, gimme fire, gimme that which I desire, ooh!” :uham:
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I prefer this one:
However, there are times where I can’t get this one out of my head instead:
It’s good to learn to hook up quickly and smoothly, because there might just be a time when it’s the difference between flying home and gliding home. -
thanks for all of the tunes! i finally did my first successful AAR!!! one step closer to being eligible to apply for multiplayer events without being a detriment to my team.
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BTW…Master Arm On, Dogfight Override, second trigger… tanker is Brrrrrrt…
In one of the scenarios (I think it’s the heavy configuration) the tanker disconnected me and refused to let me reconnect, unless I went back to pre-contact position.
I did exactly that. -
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OK, so struggling with this one too. From time to time, I have had to run a carrier trap just to get some self-esteem back. This is hard!
I did watch oakdesign’s video, thankyou for that one. I can also obtain and fly formation with the tanker for maybe 30 seconds but tend to start bouncing around a bit, so a few questions for the masters, please:
I have been able to maintain a short Contact and I am wondering if my stick is too poor for this fine precision exercise? It’s a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, but I have a good Virpil throttle.
The aircraft in the training TE is finely trimmed, so if I pitch up and let go of the stick, should it not eventually revert back to flying level again?
Another thing I found, once I get into the jetstream blowdryer behind the tanker, I struggle a lot with ending up both too low and offset to the boom. How on earth does eg. oakdesign manage to avoid that, is that by floating down from the left wing?
Cheers,
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OK, so struggling with this one too. From time to time, I have had to run a carrier trap just to get some self-esteem back. This is hard!
I did watch oakdesign’s video, thankyou for that one. I can also obtain and fly formation with the tanker for maybe 30 seconds but tend to start bouncing around a bit, so a few questions for the masters, please:
I have been able to maintain a short Contact and I am wondering if my stick is too poor for this fine precision exercise? It’s a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, but I have a good Virpil throttle.
The aircraft in the training TE is finely trimmed, so if I pitch up and let go of the stick, should it not eventually revert back to flying level again?
Another thing I found, once I get into the jetstream blowdryer behind the tanker, I struggle a lot with ending up both too low and offset to the boom. How on earth does eg. oakdesign manage to avoid that, is that by floating down from the left wing?
Cheers,
jayBHi there, i hope that i will be able to help you out.
The main issue is that most of us didn’t go trough the training those guys have to endure. They have been trained to fly formation and already have good formation skills when they get to the AAR refueling part. I remember one time i was flying with a trainee on my wing and I watched him trying to fly formation of me. He was holding steady for a few seconds then he was moving up and down and he was foghorn hard to hold a good position. At some point i asked him to turn his HUD Off. He was immediately steady.
Main reason behind this was that like most of us we fly the numbers. Try and fly in reference to the picture you see. Formation flying is visual, I know it sounds obvious but if you repeat it to yourself you will realize that everything you need to fly formation is outside the cockpit. Is the plane I try to fly formation of climbing ? If he is climbing then it means i need to climb and add a bit of power. Am I overtaking him ? If yes then I need to reduce speed, but slowly, proportional to the amount of correction I need to make.
Input, observe, input and do it again. Take your time and relax. Once you are used to the picture you want to hold you can now watch your hud for reference. Again, fly of the picture you want to hold and reference the HUD for gross values. When you feel like you had too much, take spacing and breathe. Then get a bit closer until you are comfortable.
It takes time and practice and also you need to understand the inputs you are giving.
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Well resumed by Canuck .
Jayb ,if I may dare a little off-topic suggestion : Try to fly a bit of helicopter sims (or IRL, if you are lucky enough !!!).
I see you all laughing, but you really shouldn’t : This give you the best training to evaluate distances , in all dimensions, as well as closure rate .
Do it in parallel with your AAR training in the Viper and you will quickly observe a huge improvement of your formation skills .Very good for dogfights too , and for very short landings .It will become a 2nd nature .