4.35 U3 Rants, feedback, comments
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In this thread I want to listen to our users. Any kind of comment: bad, negative, good, neutral. Chaffs and flares are ready here.
I will kindly ask other devs to not interfere within this thread. In fact, I will ask other devs to stop reading at this point. Let this be a conversation between me and our users. If even then you wish to read this, be prepared to read negative feedback.
The reason I am asking this is because silence does not help us. But neither it is good when a user comes with a frustration and devs get defensive. I understand not everyone reacts the same to feedback: what sounds ok to some, sounds aggressive to others. So let’s have a frank conversation.
So far, what I saw was some problems with overwriting files and one FPS issue with using an external mod. There is also a serious issue with aircraft not landing which we are working on.
But even the reaction to the update announcement was a bit cold.
I can see this as either:
- Users lost interest. They are either flying/playing other games: this is fine, but if that is the case, I’d like to know.
- Users have not migrated to new forum: this one is harder to understand, since if users are not here anymore, we will not have their feedback;
- People expected more of this release: totally valid.
- People are still waiting for the weekend to try this out.
- “I tried, but I did not notice anything different”.
- I want my CTDs back!! (well, we actually have a solution for that )
- Whatever other reason.
Feel free to talk about any other aspect. It can be about this update, or even the current situation. The only thing I will ask is to be polite. But even if you are not, I will try to read the feedback with a very open mind
Weapons free, fire at will!
And in case you missed, here is the U3 announcement thread: https://forum.falcon-bms.com/topic/21392/falcon-bms-4-35-u3-incremental-installer
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Maybe I’m part of the “silent users” but for me everything is fine with this update
I’ve reported a deadlock in the sound code and 1rst thing i did is to rerun the test : ALL OK
All I can say now is thank you to all devs & testers for your hard work. -
@digle it is ok to be silent. That is why I brought up this thread. Thank you for taking your time to answer
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@seifer First of all I would like to thank you guys for all the hard work you do. Also very much like the new forum and I feel very positive about you guys trying to use the community also as input. If I would have one personal comment about the current situation. Sadly the latest updates 4.34 and 4.35 even more so cannot be enjoyed like I could 4.33 on my system. I understand that it is more a problem of not upgrading my system and I will do this for sure in the future. Then I will certainly jump in again on the latest, but for now I just cannot enjoy it because it has become way to slow on my system. I always hoped and think it would have been better to only have improved things without sacrificing how stable and good Falcon ran when it was still 4.33. But I guess it was only wishful thinking of my person only. In the meantime I will still keep following all the new development, simply because bms will get better and better for sure and I will always keep loving Falcon as being the most enjoyable flightsim.
So yes i am very positive about the ‘new’ approach and direction you guys following lately towards the community and future. But I will just be a follower only for now.Cheers Obi1
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@obi1 I’m very interested in your case. Can you elaborate? What are your system specs?
For U1 and U2 I worked a lot on performance, the numbers I got from my benchmarks were between 30%-40% improvement. But this is not enough, if your system is at, say, 10 FPS (you will get 14, which is still unplayable).
Also, did you try disabling some fancy stuff, like HDR? What is your current average FPS for a regular TE?
Thanks for your feedback!
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@seifer said in 4.35 U3 Rants, feedback, comments:
People are still waiting for the weekend to try this out.
That’s my reason.
I wonder if people are missing the U3 news with the new forum setup too. “General” is probably the most popular Category, but the main U3 topic is the “Front lines” post (which is great!), but easily missed if you’re just scanning post titles.
Perhaps an official “Post-Launch” discussion would focus the excitement, as users cannot post on the ‘Releases & Updates’ category (which I agree is a good for that category).I’d like to close with expressing my huge appreciate what the BMS team does!
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@zeus_ With the new website, it is all over google now
Do you need a red light as well on your computer?
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@seifer well yes, I have always fine tuned every version since the beginning to have at least this FPS between 25 and 30. Since 4.34 I really had to optimise cfg and settings ingame and graphic card. To keep the same situation. Since 4.35 it was simply not possible to get the same 25-30 situation anymore. Even with all things toned down to the min specs. It felt like micro stuttering again and hiccups like we had in the past. My system has stayed the same for all these years so I can really compare between all versions. It was in my signature on the old website. Not sure if it can still be seen now.
I just think that it prefers better hardware and then accelerate on these, but on older systems these optimisations won’t help anymore? -
@Seifer Update works flawless, (as usual) and so far everything works well.
Really like the new colors
From my side a big THANK YOU to the entire BMS-Team for what you are doing over all theese years for this crazy bunch of flightsimmers.ahhh… by the way… i´m missing (or cant find) the “Like” or “Thanks” feature at the new forum
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@maxwaldorf said in 4.35 U3 Rants, feedback, comments:
Do you need a red light as well on your computer?
I’m more of a blue guy
On the serious side, I’m not a huge topic starter. I look what’s out there and I comment if I have something constructive to add. There’s only 1 official U3 post, which people cant comment on. If the launch news was more subdued that usually (which I also found odd), maybe starting a U3 topic under General would help get the comments flowing.
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@viper said in 4.35 U3 Rants, feedback, comments:
ahhh… by the way… i´m missing (or cant find) the “Like” or “Thanks” feature at the new forum
We get to like and dislike comments now. They are the up and down arrows/carrots to the lower right of each post.
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I have been on a break of simming (not by choice) because of time constraints (becoming a father and loving it), will happily test it out as soon as I can get a chance. Along with my PC upgrade and new stick and such I just haven’t been able to configure it yet as well sigh. Time is such a bitch…
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@zeus_
Got it -
No issues so far…
And thx again to all the devs and community for keeping my fave combat sim in peak condition.
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I think the Monday release announcement, combined with forum move, is the reason for the quietness. (I think U3 wasn’t mentioned on Reddit until ~Tuesday.)
Also, we are all probably busy regression-testing our personal list of bug reports… lol
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Hi all. U3 installed yesterday, Installed Balkans for U3 too and made a short flight test (Campaign Ramp and 10 mins flight).
No issues here, anyway I will make more extensive tests during this weekend.Keep you updated!
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First of all,
Thank you for U3 and all hard work done so far.
I like the new colors,
It looks like that the clouds are fading to soon (just before entering into them) and thus I miss the sence of speed.
and definetely i dont want my CTDs back -
I’m not a big topic starter either - but so far I’ll mention that a TE I’m working on where this happens:
https://forum.falcon-bms.com/topic/21253/why-is-this-crazy-friendly-ship-barrage-happening-right-when-i-jump-into-the-te?_=1634740793858
and I thought I read in the changelog for U3 that this would be fixed - well it’s still happening. Also jumped into a TE where there’s a lot of landing aircraft right as I’m holding short, and these AC suddenly have major problems keeping formation and doing an overhead. Maybe this is all just because the TEs were created in U2 and not U3?The visual changes are fantastic.
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@seifer Dear Sir salute to you and your dedication…
honestly it is a very bold step and requires hell lot of courage to open yourself for unknown. despite knowing anything can come up and still openly asking is really remarkable. this indeed makes most of us feel that future of our beloved sim is in safe hands…
coming to the point…
as a chronic SP my only frustration is that in recent past most updates covered stability for MP community which is totally understandable but many of us like me are still comfortable in their own tiny SP world. and what I felt is that SP community is a little bit neglected…there is absolutely nothing wrong with U3. indeed this update has promised BMS community and shown a glimpse to future… but I think that cockpit ambiance may please be looked into and other cosmetics may please be done once and for all. for e.g. turn coordinator not working, still some knobs in cockpit not usable, cockpit night lights. spot light wear and tear of buttons etc. -
@seifer
I have only been playing BMS for about a month. I love it and have been totally obsessed! So incredible to get to play falcon 4 after all these years!
As for this update I don’t have huge expectations I guess since I only recently started playing and am still amazed at the modernization of falcon 4! I only did one mission last night and it went without issue. Thats about all I can say at this point but definitely keep it up! I love this sim!