OF mods: JanHas, realism patch?
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I do not use your F-16 LODs. The havey FPS drop was also experienced above a general type of airbase. I will test the LOD2/3 tree usage.
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The new F-16D with the new pylons, fuel tanks, bombs and missiles will be a lot heavier for the computer (6 standard BMS F-16’s = 1 F-16D)
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Naah! Just kidding Jan You rule! Bring it!
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sorry for the question!! but is there a download link for the new Model from Janhas? Is this model the one he has been posting progress pictures of in this thread? Please post before and after pics if you don’t mind guys.
I’m not clear on what version of model has been released? If it is that amazing model he has been working on for ages Im surprised there are no pictures posted here of it!I found this link but it does not state “Launch Vipers” is the completed release name? well I skimmed through the text anyway!
http://www.fscommunity.info/2013/06/f-1652m/Thanks
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The F-16 bloks (single cockpit) are the LV F-16 for OF but they are updated for BMS with some fix, the F-16D is still wip. Please if I´m wrong make the correct corrections (god I´m too drunbk for write in inglish right now :rolleyes: )
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sorry for the question!! but is there a download link for the new Model from Janhas? Is this model the one he has been posting progress pictures of in this thread? Please post before and after pics if you don’t mind guys.
I’m not clear on what version of model has been released? If it is that amazing model he has been working on for ages Im surprised there are no pictures posted here of it!I found this link but it does not state “Launch Vipers” is the completed release name? well I skimmed through the text anyway!
http://www.fscommunity.info/2013/06/f-1652m/Thanks
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I do not use your F-16 LODs. The havey FPS drop was also experienced above a general type of airbase. I will test the LOD2/3 tree usage.
Even the lower res LOD is very good, I use them for both trees but FPS drop is still 30 from 90 (to 60) on my rig.
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When I use the LE editor i cant get it to veiw the LOD 1-4 at all. it says where’s falcon and crashes? very weird! I followed the tutorial from Jan step by step but cant get the 3D veiw to work to confirm the LOD’s are replaced?
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When I use the LE editor i cant get it to veiw the LOD 1-4 at all. it says where’s falcon and crashes? very weird! I followed the tutorial from Jan step by step but cant get the 3D veiw to work to confirm the LOD’s are replaced?
Make sure you have the DLL’s mentioned in the manual and you point to the OGLLOD.exe when you use the 3D viewer for the first time. Without those two DLL’s 3D-viewer won’t work.
@ Molni, in these cases it’s very hard to figure out the cause. My guess it’s a hardware problem…?
About the LVN’s. I haver adjusted the BE, DK, PortAF, NL and 52CJ. I still have to adjust the 52+'s and the C40/C50. At the moment my homework for my study landscape architecture has the first priority so the LVN’s are on the back burner for the next few days…
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I guess mostly a drivers issue than a hardware problem.
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What kind of driver issue? The BMS4 is simply too FPS demanding in many cases. I set a different VGA/ingame settings and I was able to achieve in an empty TE ~110 FPS. Even I used only the 2nd lod of trees the FPS was sometimes only 75. The trees adds thousands of polys, they polycount of these trees my guess is higher than a general airbase have in total. Why is so surprising the big FPS hit?
About FPD demaning, here are some screenshots that I made 6 months ago. The 8 FPS value is wrong, it was 20, my guess capturing the SH caused the wrong value.
http://www.sg.hu/listazas_msg.php3?id=1114537900&no=43689
I turned everything on in CE, but my res. was only 1280x1024 with following.
AA -only 2x or 4x with edge detect.
AF - x4
tesselation - AMD optimalized is flagged
catalyst AI - performanceingame
QS 1 or max. 2
In advanced part on the left column only the AF was flagged, and everything on the right. An this is not exceptinal I experience the same in all flight sim. If I set bad weather the effects simply kill the FPS.
I cannot imagine how strong HW to require play with 1920x1080, turingng everything on in bad weather and using TGP above the most crowded areas of FLOT… Even if I turn of almost all effect and I play only in 1280x1024 I easly can get smaller FPS than 30especially if I use TGP.
It is even very hard to find a settings where the airbases does not have very serious texture issues (misaligned textures, black lines between elements, etc.) So far I have tried about 100 combinations and only 2-3 was usable.
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What kind of driver issue? The BMS4 is simply too FPS demanding in many cases. I set a different VGA/ingame settings and I was able to achieve in an empty TE ~110 FPS. Even I used only the 2nd lod of trees the FPS was sometimes only 75. The trees adds thousands of polys, they polycount of these trees my guess is higher than a general airbase have in total. Why is so surprising the big FPS hit?
In my old and backup laptop rig, with all effect on, the average fps when flying above sea and away from land is 35 fps. When on Kunsan runway this drops to 30. Recently due to testings, I’ve installed and replaced the default BMS shelters with the new ones of Jan, so 27 great (normal & damaged) hi-res shelters in Kunsan, most including and some extra 3D trees in them, also added the 3D trees package, some of his new F-16’s, and some other stuff. When creating a new TE with 4 of his new Vipers, the fps on ground are 20. That is approx 10fps down with all these loaded, on Kunsan ground, on my old rig. Also to mention that also using a second monitor to extract MFD’s/DED/PFL through BMS’s Falcon Exporter, and instruments through Lightning’s Falcon MFD Extractor. So there MUST be something on your end and your system drivers, perhaps a misconfiguration or not the best balanced settings between anisotopic filtering and other vga/gpu and bms graphical settings.
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Looking at your specs (i5-2400S 2.5GHz, HD7850 2GB, 8 GB RAM) it would not surprise me if that i5 is the weak link here. If I check it in this list it’s clear that a new cpu would be a good move… http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html.
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So there MUST be something on your end and your system drivers, perhaps a misconfiguration or not the best balanced settings between anisotopic filtering and other vga/gpu and bms graphical settings
As I can remember there is no AF/AA and ingame setting combination which I haven’t tired…
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Go to Control Panel > Performance Information and Tools > run a system check and tell us the base score. This indicates the less powerful component on your rig that might need an upgrade to improve overall performance.
But, as I’ve said, the system setup for the interconnection of CPU-GPU is a pure luck effect all these years with the Falcon series. I have seen old AMD CPU’s with old ATI cards and 4GB of ram running 300fps, while i5’s with latest GPU’s and 16gb ram to be around 100. It is the biggest fear when time to build a new rig from scratch.
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Looking at your specs (i5-2400S 2.5GHz, HD7850 2GB, 8 GB RAM) it would not surprise me if that i5 is the weak link here. If I check it in this list it’s clear that a new cpu would be a good move… http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html.
I’m planning to buy a much stronger CPU, I-Hawk recommended me a INTEL Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz 1155 BOX. I have an Asrock B75 Pro 3 motherboard. Is there any CPU which is stronger than this and can be insrted into mine motherboard? It can be i7 if it is needed. Money is not the problem I’m simply too lazy to buy and put into my rig a new CPU as long as I do not play with BMS4 or other strong HW demand game. I hate changing and woring inside the HW, it may can cause problem.
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Also gentlemen make a dll search and fix , and the guide for better performance on Arty’s hot list.
@My sign QX9775 OC into 3.6GHz ,VGA SAPPHIRE HD 7870 GHZ Edition 2GB GDDR5 FleX , BMS in SSD kingston , FPS inside cockpit 32-50 campaign Balkans
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I’m planning to buy a much stronger CPU, I-Hawk recommended me a INTEL Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz 1155 BOX. I have an Asrock B75 Pro 3 motherboard. Is there any CPU which is stronger than this and can be insrted into mine motherboard? It can be i7 if it is needed. Money is not the problem I’m simply too lazy to buy and put into my rig a new CPU as long as I do not play with BMS4 or other strong HW demand game. I hate changing and woring inside the HW, it may can cause problem.
@Molni,
Just a personal tip: it depends Are you want to go overclocking the hardware? If so, don’t buy the 3570K (and alike) cpu’s; they have massive heat issues going above stock clock values.Your MB (Asrock B75 pro3) with the B75 chipset was designed for business computers which never are overclocked. So, ‘just’ putting a new/more powerful cpu does not sound the best option to me.
I’ll give an example. What I did.
- budget restraints: not too many, but at least reasonable prices setup
- do I want to overclock: yes (remember: the chipsets are for a large part aimed at customers to be able to do so, so they are within OC-limits - without going to extremes that is of course -)
- wat are the best options:
I decided to get an very configurable motherboard: the ASUS P8Z68 DeLuxe/GEN3
this is a powerful setup, with matches the Z77 chipset, (is also ’ Z77 ready’) and performs well on stability.
As current software almost never use (far) over 16gb of internal memory, the + factor of the Z77 over the Z68 is lost. There I have my first ‘reasonable’ priced part :-0 - ok, the CPU. I decided to get the Intel I7 K. This ‘k’ is important, as it is the chip with the unlocked multiplier (read: faaaaar oc-ing is possible)
- even more important: how to cool the stuff. Many options are there, but I wanted to keep temperatures ‘cool’’ under all kinds of stress tests; I got myself a Antec 920 H2O liquid Cooler setup;
- power supply: also depends largely on the graphics card. You have a nice one already (I think I remember that is! perhaps I"m dead wrong) so, around 850 Watt (A-brand) power supply would suffice
- Graphics card: I decided for the Nvidia 570 GTX Twin Frozr III (Also highly OC-able)
- memory: 16 GB corsair (NOT the dominator ones) Vengeance, which run an 2200 MHz
Price ALL IN!! was for me just over Euro 500,-
A reused my case and some fans, monitor and other peripheralsRough performance indication on the CPU: my setup runs at around 4.9 Ghz on 1.345 volts, temps never exceed 77.5 Celcius.
Sooooo, long story short: how fast you wanne go, how much money do you want to spend, how much time you want to put in the build.
This gets me around 70 fps all over in BMS.hope this helps,
regards,
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Your MB (Asrock B75 pro3) with the B75 chipset was designed for business computers which never are overclocked. So, ‘just’ putting a new/more powerful chipset does not sound the best option to me.
I’m using with max. overclock my currently used CPU. I have very big fan on CPU with very, very low noise level, it runs on minimum speed as well as other fans on the case. On the case there is a big fan (~20 cm diameter) and a smaller one. Currently no one of these working, I removed the side plate of the case with big fan and I disable the front fan below the DVD reader. Even this settings the max. CPU temperature is about only 37-38 C. In summer when the room temp was 31-32C was the CPU temp 44-45 C.
I have to say my, guess I can overclock any CPU as strong as I wish even I switch to a more stronger one, there is so much available cooling capacity.
Rough performance indication on the CPU: my setup runs at around 4.9 Ghz on 1.345 volts, temps never exceed 77.5 Celcius.
Comparing with mine temperature your is very, very bad. On such a temp. CPUs can cause system freeze. I have a wrong CPU fan once and at ~80 C the system simply crashed because of CPU temp. I have to say I felt quite uncomfortable myself abouve 50-55 C CPU temp…
So, is there a better choice for me from technical aspect than INTEL Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz? Some kind of i7?
Sorry for the OFF.
I tested the FPS with your wall stuff. I cannot experienced any FPS drop. I tested the trees with LOD2 and LOD3. I have to say unless if you are not close - some hundred feet on ground - you cannot recognize any difference between LOD1 and LOD3, but FPS drop is much, much less with LOD3. If all of 3 LODs in DB with LOD Editor only some values have to be changed to activate the bigger res. trees.
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I’m using with max. overclock my currently used CPU. I have very big fan on CPU with very, very low noise level, it runs on minimum speed as well as other fans on the case. On the case there is a big fan (~20 cm diameter) and a smaller one. Currently no one of these working, I removed the side plate of the case with big fan and I disable the front fan below the DVD reader. Even this settings the max. CPU temperature is about only 37-38 C. In summer when the room temp was 31-32C was the CPU temp 44-45 C.
I have to say my, guess I can overclock any CPU as strong as I wish even I switch to a more stronger one, there is so much available cooling capacity.
Comparing with mine temperature your is very, very bad. On such a temp. CPUs can cause system freeze. I have a wrong CPU fan once and at ~80 C the system simply crashed because of CPU temp. I have to say I felt quite uncomfortable myself abouve 50-55 C CPU temp…
So, is there a better choice for me from technical aspect than INTEL Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz? Some kind of i7?
Sorry for the OFF.
I tested the FPS with your wall stuff. I cannot experienced any FPS drop. I tested the trees with LOD2 and LOD3. I have to say unless if you are not close - some hundred feet on ground - you cannot recognize any difference between LOD1 and LOD3, but FPS drop is much, much less with LOD3. If all of 3 LODs in DB with LOD Editor only some values have to be changed to activate the bigger res. trees.
Hey Molni according to your motherboard specs and the CPU support list on Asrock site you can put an i7 3770K Ivy Bridge(the top CPU for the socket before Server Xeon CPU’s), with 3.5 GHz stock frequency. Maybe you will need a BIOS update if your BIOS is old to support the CPU. Also what power supply you have?