WIP: Dassault Rafale
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BTW, The page was not found…
Try this one: http://www.opex360.com/2012/01/30/rafale-simulateur-de-vol-et-propriete-intellectuelle/
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Pfft! Let 'em come and get me.
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Surely they have no legal grounds on this do they??
Of course they does since “Rafale” seams to be copyrighted.
I would say that it is not a good idea because, “unlike” for F-16 (old block), everything around Rafael is extremely confidential (look how many vid you can find on the web … what documents you can find about it) … BMS is very popular and everybody knows that there are some valuable consultant here. Dassault could (?) be afraid that some ppl would leak some info, views, pictures etc … and could be “interested” in spoiling BMS to avoid any risks.
I know what I’m talking about being “close” to Airbus A-400M Atlas project.
Because once they are here, game is lost. Byby BMS.
As BMS team member I would say that it isn’t worth it.
But I’m not specialist of legal stuff … honestly, I do not know. Just be aware that it has already happened… no idea what would they have done if the team would not have asked any prior permission to release, nor what they would have done if FSX Rafale would have been released without Dassaut agreement. (Probably nothing (?))
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That being said … I do not know what would be the deal if was made by a 3rd party and shared as mod to BMS Falcon4’s mod (?)
We are now thinking on the same page :bowd:
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That being said … I do not know what would be the deal if was made by a 3rd party and shared as mod to BMS Falcon4’s mod (?) … He would take the responsibility personally.
That will not work out. In case of spreading copyrighted material w/o permission, there is no “in good faith” rule. Especially not if a discussion as this one here is conducted upfront.
So please be sensible here, gents. Even is s/o creates an external mod, he should now what he’s up to.
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So the Rafale is copyrighted, but the Mirage 2000 D especially the N is not ? the - 5 …. 2000C RDY ? EGM ? … i can understand their concerns,but i find it a bit harsh.
Oh well, good to know at least.
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So the Rafale is copyrighted, but the Mirage 2000 D especially the N is not ? the - 5 …. 2000C RDY ? EGM ? … i can understand their concerns,but i find it a bit harsh.
I do not know … but I wouldn’t ask them
IMO … Rafael is just more “sensitive”. That’s all.
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That as the FSX project.
Was nice!
IMO … having the 3D model is not problem… but make it flyable with 3D cockpit, I do not know. (?) -
high realism, nice… !!!
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Since BMS is free mod, there should not be any issues with copyrights.
I remember way back when Counter-Strike first started as a free mod for Half-Life and they had all the real names for every gun. But from one point it started to become payable or something so they changed all the names for the guns with fictional ones
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Since BMS is free mod, there should not be any issues with copyrights.
Absoluetly not. It has NOTHING to do with money. (Dassault is not making money with video game simulator nor Rafael marketing.)
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Dassault does have reasons to keep the technology very closely guarded. Much like our F22 or F35 here in the states
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Good morning… actually that is / was and has been the case ever since. Every design is copyright protected by it’s designers unless he/she declares it otherwise.
You may find racing simulator where a Mercedes AMG is named Mecator AMB or something like that. That’s the case, because the game producer have not licensed the cars from the manufacturers.
The same applies to Flightsims. Strictly spoken one would have to ask each manufacturer for permission to use the aircraft in the sim.
Normally since they don’t have any disadvantage that their product is getting known better, the manufacturer shouldn’t have any problem with that.Dassault does have reasons to keep the technology very closely guarded. Much like our F22 or F35 here in the states
That’s certainly not an issue - for as long as you don’t use classified data for your flightmodels, radar-capability, RWR, etc. The outer 3D design of the aircraft can be seen and photographed in every detail on numerous locations. It’s not exactly like they are hiding it and wrap a towel around it e.g. at airshows. As with most publicly know military aircrafts, it’s not the hardware that is classified, it’s the software.
There are exceptions to that though, e.g when it comes to the cockpit: E.g. there is no cockpit picture publicly available for the Tornado ASSTA 3 upgrade, because it’s still classified atm. So if you would be able to sneak a cockpit picture somehow/somewhere it obviously would be a no-go to build a 3d pit from that. -
Rafale is pay-ware for FSX! This mutes the no DEV I think.
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Any news ?
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Rafale is pay-ware for FSX! This mutes the no DEV I think.
Why? Who tells you that they didn’t asked and obtained Dassault authorization?
(Just my 2 cent).
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If they had Dassault’s auth. wouldn’t they have a nice big seal on it somewhere like the Air Force does?
I would be interested in developing a 3d cockpit if the BMS community stood behind it, looks like the 3d model is around but we do not know if Hyab will release for any reason.
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BMS already has Mirage F1, 2000, and previously super etendard and Rafale (free falcon). Who cares about Dassault?