About Aviano charts
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It is better than what we had which was completely off.
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So, if you have correct data, why don’t you make them?
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I have some very old, and very outdated Aviano charts as well.
I have no idea if they are fit for Balkan?They might need modification as well - but they might be updated
http://www.ravico.com/ST/Download/Checklists/charts_aviano_2.zip
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As Nikos told in other thread, he is going to make (actually they are made [old version] and you can find in “MAIP Balkans theater” doc) that charts.
So, we must wait untill work will be finished. It is always worth waiting for his job!!
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It is better than what we had which was completely off.
Without to feel offended, how can you say this?
Do you ever try them into the Balkans?
Can you tell me with which way are you gonna utilize NDB’s?
And what about ILS different Loc course?
Also the position of TACAN station is vary 50.5 NM, so how can you utilize the GPS coordinates of the charts, as an alternative/confirmation method?
Do you know the basics of air navigation? Because when you said “It is better than what we had which was completely off” and you don’t realize that the specific charts are completely useless, means (for me at least) that you are far away of air navigation knowledge.
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I will update Aviano today if I have time but I’m going to leave the elevation at 413 since BMS doesn’t model airport elevation differences…for example the threshold is at 324 ft while the base is at 413. My only “con” to adding those objectives is that wings that have started campaigns may have to start them over again. I do not have problem putting objectives in, I just don’t want to make it difficult for everyone else.
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Hey Red Dog.
The charts are outdated. Aviano airbase sits with a runway heading of 05/23 and the Airport diagram is wrong.
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A whishes for Santa…would be grea…awesome to have sooner or later Balkans Interactive Map.
Dear Santa,
Is it possible to have an Interactive Map for Balkans?
I’ll behave myself, I promise
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I will update Aviano today if I have time but I’m going to leave the elevation at 413 since BMS doesn’t model airport elevation differences…for example the threshold is at 324 ft while the base is at 413. My only “con” to adding those objectives is that wings that have started campaigns may have to start them over again. I do not have problem putting objectives in, I just don’t want to make it difficult for everyone else.
My friend,
I already told you in our contacts what’s about the easy and quick 2 small actions you must make in order to “release” my hands and I make the nav. charts for the beautiful Aviano by “nove”.
Don’t be afraid to go ahead. The think that some virtual squadrons already running Balkans, doesn’t prevent you and me to improve Aviano.
When they finished it, then they can use the new updated Balkans.
For the moment the position of the TACAN station is over RWY that is completely wrong and unreal, and the RWY elevation should be 320 FT as a reading of the altimeter into the cockpit (from 324 FT) and NOT 413 FT that is the ARP.
Ask real life pilots about the usage of ARP elevation, you never use that in the approach procedures! That is for sure.
So please stay on the THR/TDZE elevation as I already pm you, since we can’t have different altitudes for the airports.
When you make these 2 specific updates, send me only the updated files and then I can start the creation of the charts.
I’m not press you, the decision is on you.
But IF you respect the desire of the Balkans fans, then do them and let me do my job as I know, as also to be perfect ;).
If you need again the specific data for Aviano, pm me.
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A whishes for Santa…would be grea…awesome to have sooner or later Balkans Interactive Map.
Dear Santa,
Is it possible to have an Interactive Map for Balkans?
I’ll behave myself, I promise
GAn interactive map is the last thing in a long list of items that needs to be done
- a working terrain, which is not changing anymore
- a limited amount of airbases (and not that insane amount some theatre try (and fail) to implement)
- I’d need to design charts for all implemented airbase with SID exit points and IAF points clearly identified
- I’d need to place collocated and non collocated navaids placed in the theatre and have full control of the stations.dat file
- I’d need real information about MOAs, Restricted, Danger and Prohibited airspace (ideally a real AIP would be needed) and place them in the BMS terrain with the usual compromises
- The possibility to get a very large resolution image of the terrain with many different required items (road, rivers, cities, ….)
- I’d need to create anc control a full UI map in high resolution
- and finally, A LOT of time to create the final interactive map
I’m not doing interactive maps for WIP terrain. I can only do them once the terrain have all the above. Anything less is a waste of time
If I had a lot of time ahead of me, I’d probably do ITO first