JDAM in Israel theatre campaign….
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So I am new to IS theatre, and I am thoroughly enjoying it.
I had one question though…I’ll give an example as this is the easiest way to understand the problem.
So my mission was to destroy a chemical flare plant(not sure if the name is exact…but a factory). So I armed myself with 8 1000lbs JDAMS on my f-16a (don’t remember the exact variant…i think block 30?), so that I’d drop 2 bombs on 4 targets in a run.
So I set my 4 targets on my DTC using the recon function, and confirmed that I have chosen stpt 15, 16, 17, and 18 as my targets.
I took off, and at the IP, I set up the bombs and etc.
I dropped the bombs over the targets, and surprisingly, they all missed.
I flew around the target to see if my DTC was showing me the targets, but stpt 15 was designating a tiny bit off of the target, and so were all the other target stpt.
The bombs did hit where they were ordered, it’s just that the stpt weren’t set to the targets…which is weird because i selected each target using DTC/recon.
The targets were on top of a small mountain though, could that have been why? Maybe when I select stpt using recon it doesn’t take altitude into account?
Any idea why?
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Not 100% sure whether it matters or not, but did you complete a full 8.0 alignment of the INS?
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I think JDams are not full simulated @ bms.
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Wonder if you’re using update 6, if so, ITO is not fully compatible with it yet,
At the 108th we do a lot of JDAMs attacks, never had any issues with itRegards,
Elf
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A couple more things you might want to do is 1. write down the exact coordinates for each target steer point when you are briefing and reconning the targets. When you get into the cockpit, check the steer points for accuracy and change them as necessary. 2. GPS bombs are made to give standoff range as well as superior accuracy. BMS handles the accuracy very well, how ever the range is way off. You can live with this as long as you employ the GPS weapons just like you do with any other CCRP delivery. How ever, if you are ever brave enough to open the editor in BMS, you might be amazed to find out that all of the GPS bombs have their ranges set at two kilometers. In actuality, these weapons have a range of twenty eight kilometers (fifteen nautical miles) You can change these setting if you like. Now you can pickle these weapons using the manual mode. This allows your aircraft to release the weapon anywhere within the range of the weapon. The main idea is to ingress low and fast and then pull and then and burn and when you get about thirty degrees of ascent pickle the GBU and break down and away. It is great fun especially when the weather is so so bad.
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What are the advantages of using JDAM instead of something else ?
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What are the advantages of using JDAM instead of something else ?
Multiple targets in 1 pass with high precision hit rate. No reason to go heads-down to Lase, etc.
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And I cannot do this with other types of bombs ?
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And I cannot do this with other types of bombs ?
No not with that accuracy - only LGBs have similar accuracy - but with LGBs you cant self lase through a cloud base for one thing.
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I just tried using jdams in BMS and it seems im not fast enough to cycle throug the steerpoints, but why do I have to use the MAN Mode to drop them ? In another thread someone just used CCRP and didn’t switch between CCRP and MAN.
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Afaik, you dont have to switch to man mode - but, if you do there seems to be a range advantage which increases with release altitude. I think optimum release altitude for best range is up to angels 25. After a certain altitude, the range advantage diminishes. Thanks to Tiag and the 185th for teaching me such things
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I just tried using jdams in BMS and it seems im not fast enough to cycle throug the steerpoints, but why do I have to use the MAN Mode to drop them ? In another thread someone just used CCRP and didn’t switch between CCRP and MAN.
Have you changed your spacing to 999? This should give you enough time to cycle through the steerpoints?
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I just tried using jdams in BMS and it seems im not fast enough to cycle throug the steerpoints, but why do I have to use the MAN Mode to drop them ? In another thread someone just used CCRP and didn’t switch between CCRP and MAN.
There’s a better way:
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Thank you very much for these answers!
Finally got them to go where i want them to. -
Easy bombing technique…:D:D:D
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On a related note, has anyone tried making markpoints with the TGP, then dropping multiple JDAMs? I have tried it a few times (in different theaters) and even though I set 4 separate targets, all JDAMs fall onto target #4. If I set targets from the recon screen they work perfectly, and hit all 4 targets. Something seems amiss when using the TGP.
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On a related note, has anyone tried making markpoints with the TGP, then dropping multiple JDAMs? I have tried it a few times (in different theaters) and even though I set 4 separate targets, all JDAMs fall onto target #4. If I set targets from the recon screen they work perfectly, and hit all 4 targets. Something seems amiss when using the TGP.
It works using TGP to set the markpoints but when you drop the JDAMS, TGP mustn’t be in IR mode, and the FCR needs to be SOI.
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On a related note, has anyone tried making markpoints with the TGP, then dropping multiple JDAMs? I have tried it a few times (in different theaters) and even though I set 4 separate targets, all JDAMs fall onto target #4. If I set targets from the recon screen they work perfectly, and hit all 4 targets. Something seems amiss when using the TGP.
It works using TGP to set the markpoints but when you drop the JDAMS, TGP mustn’t be in IR mode, and the FCR needs to be SOI.
Gotta try that.
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It works using TGP to set the markpoints but when you drop the JDAMS, TGP mustn’t be in IR mode, and the FCR needs to be SOI.
I completely turned off my TGP and dropped with FCR as SOI and it still didn’t work. I’ll have to try again.
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Since the weapon has your target in its memory, and, if you are within twenty eight kilometers (15NM) and fast and lofting, that is the perfect time to pickle the weapon. Only the MAN mode will let you instantly pickle the weapon. It is the perfect match for the GPS deployment. As a matter of fact, these weapons are pretty good at taking out SAM radar vans, the stationary ones at least. In the real world, the Air Force is now using GPS weapons which have a IR sensor head, so that if the target is moving the GPS weapon will still be effective against it.
Raven
