Downed by AA10A after destroying the launching aircraft again
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i don’t think so, and certainly not AA10A.
AFAIK the only HOJ capable in vanilla are the AMRAAM and AA12 adder(?)
AMRAAM i know for sure and AA12 i’d guess at (i was always told to shut off jammer going into burnthrough on SU27S, because of AA12 HOJ, anyway)
AFAIK nothing else is.
as far as i can tell here’s the possibilities
1. it’s bugged. personally i’ve seen stuff that makes me think it’s possible that occasionally SARH missiles behave strangely
2. you rotated into a blind spot on the RWR and thought it was dead when it actually wasn’t. personally i don’t rely on the RWR in 4.33 as it’s far from reliable (some of which is intentional, though how much i couldn’t say exactly)
3. the missile went dead as the mig rotated defensive, but it was so close it ran into you anyway after losing track
4. the mig rotated defensive and then turned offensive again to continue guidance (i don’t think there’s anything theoretically impossible about re-guiding an off-course missile… at least)
5. perhaps the most likely is what i mentioned in my first post, that the fireballing MIG was still in his radar parameters, and he managed to guide it to terminal before he exploded. i know for a fact that this does happen. whether it’s a bug or not, how common it is it’s hard to say.
in general, ^29s in 4.33 seem far more dangerous than they used to be. before the only real threat they presented was the AA11 being a good missile and a moderately high ACM ability, now however their behavior at least seems different:
-more likely to fly higher (ATO change?)
-fire far earlier than they used to against ALQ-184. whether this a radar or missile change, hard to say
-far more willing to shotgun whole missile loadfor the most part i actually avoid the NEZ shots and just go for WEZ instead. in 4.32 it was almost trivial to fly into 13nm~ range, TWS a whole formation of ^29s, cheap shot and then leave, but now it seems like that’s a very short road to death, either because they’re smarter, the weapons were upgraded, or maybe the radar.
like krause says, without ACMI this is just all speculation though
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IIRC AA-10(R-27R,ER) was HOJable in AF…you can check BMS state in falcon editor or F4browse…
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I thought the AA10C was not SARH. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-27_(air-to-air_missile)
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I thought the AA10C was not SARH. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-27_(air-to-air_missile)
A- SARH
B - IR
C - SARH
D - IRUse the word ‘bIRd’ to remember which is which.
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From what I’m told is that the BMS developers only want to implement a feature if it is 100% accurate. With all these (possible) features being classified, therefore, leading to uncertainty, the developers chose not to take a guess or hack at something that may not even exist. The only advice I’m going to provide on this subject is to stay outside of a WEZ.
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This version: active-radar-homing (R-27EA) is active radar; @Fox3TwoShip:
A- SARH
B - IR
C - SARH
D - IRUse the word ‘bIRd’ to remember which is which.
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This version: active-radar-homing (R-27EA) is active radar;
I’m not familiar with the Russian designation; only the NATO designation (e.g. AA-10C). And I can assure you that the 10 Chuck is SARH.
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R27R is 10A, R27T is 10B, R27ER is 10C, and R27ET is 10D
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I’m not familiar with the Russian designation; only the NATO designation (e.g. AA-10C). And I can assure you that the 10 Chuck is SARH.
+1
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I thought the AA10C was not SARH. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-27_(air-to-air_missile)
Wiki seems to get it right
R-27ER AA-10 Alamo-C, the semi-active-radar homing extended-range version. [3]
As for the EA version very difficult to find anything that verifies that ever went into service.
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hell, it’s debatable if the ER is even in service (and it’s from the 90s, i think)
if you look at photos from syria the majority of the flankers you see still carry R27R.
the russians likely know a lot of stuff we don’t, either the newer missiles never performed satisfactorily or the R27R/T are much better than everyone thinks.
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There is at least an obvious size difference with the ER/T to the R/T. With a different radar seeker you might need to read the details on the side of missile to tell.
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@Cik:
hell, it’s debatable if the ER is even in service (and it’s from the 90s, i think)
if you look at photos from syria the majority of the flankers you see still carry R27R.No, ER is Flanker’s standard missile, widely used (at least under and between engines). Alamo is modular. U can change seekers (u need IR?, well just change it!) or extend engine sections according missions. A and C share the same seeker (there are seeker upgrades/mods of course, the same like aim9LMX), but C is longer and have aditional engine section. C is good and fine tunned missile (balanced but quite heavy), A is short legged (made rather for light Fulcrum).