Feedback BMS-Training.pdf
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Yep you’re right. A step is missing in the left console steps
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@Red:
Yep you’re right. A step is missing in the left console steps
ThanksNow I’m really confused as I pointed to the same “issue” as SLangner
in the first post.Cheers,
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Oops. You’re right lazystone. :mrgreen:
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SLanger was clearer than you
All sorted now in the next edition. -
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Hello to everyone,
I’m new to Falcon BMS, and still trying to start my F16 from a cold&dark status. I’m following step by step the training manual (TE mission 1, ramp start), but none of my avionics starts. For instance, when I get to step 1.1.4 (page 11 in the manual), the DED is supposed to be on, but mine is completely dark. Of course I turned the battery on (first on BATT, then on MAIN PWR), and, even if not mentioned at this point of the manual, I also tried to switch on all the “avionics power” buttons on the right panel, such as the UFC power, etc…. Other electrical parts are on (i.e., alarms, battery light, etc…) are fine.
So, in other word, some parts of my F16 seem to be powered, but the entire central console stays dark.
Do I have perhaps to wait longer? Or is there some button that I haven’t found?
Thanks for any help
Bob
p.s.: apologies if this is the wrong forum… I thought it was the most appropriate but please suggest me if I should post it somewhere else -
Ah, that’s poor phrasing on the manual, apparently. The DED should not be on at this point - but if it were and you were still in BACKUP, the image in 1.1.4 is what you would saw when entering COM1.
You power on the UFC (and thus the DED) after starting up the engine, at 1.2.3. There is a slight delay in between you pressing the switch and the DED screen going online.
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it is already fixed in the next version indeed.
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Thanks,
but that brings to another problem: even if I power up all the avionics, still nothing happens. I think I might have a problem in starting the engine: after starting the JFS, RPM go up to approx 20%, but even if I push throttle forward nothing else happens - no hyd pressure, no more RPM, the fuel dial shows 000000. Perphaps if the engine is not correctly started the avionics don’t power up? If so, where am I wrong with the engine?Thanks again
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Page 12: “At that point check that the SEC caution light is off and move the throttle forward (or click the idle detent) and monitor lights and engine gauges”.
If you’ve not got the ‘Idle Cutoff’ option ticked in Configuration (from Launcher) > Hardware you will need to press the idle detent key (usually ALT + i).
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Quick question – seeing as we don’t know when the “next version” of BMS will be released, is there any chance of getting a fixed version of the PDFs ahead of time please?
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Thanks Darkman, I had already tried with ALT-I, I will give it another try and double-check the config.
What about the fact that my fuel gauge reads 00000? Reading and hands do not move no matter the position of the fuel selector (not even in TEST). Does the gauge start working only with the engine on?
Bob
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Quick question – seeing as we don’t know when the “next version” of BMS will be released, is there any chance of getting a fixed version of the PDFs ahead of time please?
No mate sorry.
1. we are part of a team and we act alongside the team organisation
2. it’s already very complicated to keep track (BMS still evolves) we don’t want to make it more complicated with intermediary versionsYou guys will have to be patient
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Hi Bobspi,
I looks to me that your engine doesnt ignite, and is still being turned by the JFS (your ALT-I seems not to work properly)
In that case, you don’t yet have all electrical buses powered, and some systems will not come on when you flick their switches.Only when the engine has lit up and starts spooling up towards idle RPM, you’ll get full electrical power to all the systems at some point somewhere around 50% RPM
(Theres a schematic somewhere in the docs that shows the relations between the electrical buses BTW.)
Hope that helps!
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@Red:
You guys will have to be patient
What of the weapons that were to be continued in the (excellent) training doc?
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Time permitting i will add them as well. Hopefully i can squeeze a few before the next revision but to be honest time is really tight maintaining all manuals with the ongoing development of BMS alone.
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Thanks, problem solved. The ALT-I clearly doesn’t work for me, I have checked the “cutoff idle” option in the the configurator and now everything powers up regularly, incl the fuel gauge.
Once I’m here, let me drop another question: I can’t access the AIR COND panel because the view is hidden by “something” (haven’t yet figured out what it is). Is there any way of moving this obstruction away, or move my point of view in the 3D view?
Bob
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p.133
we are planning to attack both columns with a pair of JSOWs in trail, it’s best to fire JSOWs at INS steerpoints rather than cursor positions, so we need to mark both centres of the columns and use them as our attack INS steerpoints. As both attack axes are different, we’ll set the first two bombs for the 315¡ã column, ripple the first two JSOWs, then program the SMS for the next column axis before releasing the last 2 bombs.consider about this situation, i think it should be two?
Edit RD: corrected in next version (rephrased)
The text is actually correct.
If you’re attacking both columns with a pair of JSOW’s it’s implied you’re using one pair per column. You can either attack the columns with two pairs of JSOW’s, or both columns with a pair.
Also you don’t need to use TMS Up to designate the target in the CCRP tutorial, and it does indeed appear that you need to TMS Up the second AGM65G fired at the bridge, otherwise it heads into the river.
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Once I’m here, let me drop another question: I can’t access the AIR COND panel because the view is hidden by “something” (haven’t yet figured out what it is). Is there any way of moving this obstruction away, or move my point of view in the 3D view?
Pretty sure if you hold the middle mouse button you can move the viewpoint around.
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The something is an armrest. If you look further back towards the right side of the cockpit, further aft, the left hand side of your monitor should show the panel coming into view.