Recommended PC for BMS
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without knowing what size monitor the poster is using,GPU can vary greatly
I know my 40" 4K, needs a lot of vram, compared to a 24" 1080p
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I would get a black one with a fan in the back.
Its a bit outdated but have a look here https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/content.php?132
I would not get a i7 but go for the best i5 you can afford.
Min i5 6500. Spend the money you save on the GPU.Ram will be DDR 4. Min of 8gig. 16gig will future proof you, in more ways then then I will explain here. 3000MHz seem to be a good speed rating at this time. G.Skill is my favored brand, but others like Corsair or Crucial. Kingston was popular in the past.
Motherboards is a big subject. Gigabyte, Asus. MSI is another popular well established name. Asrock make budget boards, try not to. A good board will use a Intel Z170 chipset. The H170 chipset you will find on slightly cheaper boards but, as long as you never want to overclock and lacks some features but is still OK.
Bare minimum GPU: R9 380 or GTX 960 either with 4gig of onboard Ram. A 2gig card will only disappoint you latter.
It seem some of the smaller venders skimp on the quality of Power Supply Units. Good brands like Antec, Coolermaster, Thermaltake or Corsair are the popular PSU with for the most part good Reps. 550/650watt is enough.
Don’t go for a “flashy” looking “case” often the simple looking boxes are actually better.
Antec Three Hundred Two is a very good example http://www.anandtech.com/show/5462/antec-three-hundred-two-stay-cool-budget-enthusiasts. (A good case will have some form of dust filtering.)Hope this helps you make an informed choice, or at least help you know what to look at.
PS: Must have a SSD main drive of 250GB and a mechanical storage drive. Samsung 850 EVO & Western Digital “Blue” are my recommendations.
Good hunting……
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I would get a black one with a fan in the back.
LOL!!! You’re forgetting the fans in the side and at the front… these are the ones that separate a gaming computer from the “meh” off-the-shelf ones. The serious gaming rigs have fans at the top as well.
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LOL!!! You’re forgetting the fans in the side and at the front… these are the ones that separate a gaming computer from the “meh” off-the-shelf ones. The serious gaming rigs have fans at the top as well.
If it has a fan at the top doesn’t that make it a helow copter
PS I hadn’t finished typing……
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av8orfliboy,
Thanks for the reply. I would like to stay around $1500 (including a monitor), and I will be purchasing from a store. I’d prefer to not purchase online. Any suggestions?
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Shadow has posted a very good set of recommendations, I would start with that. Prices will vary online and on brick-and-mortars, even more so and would make it useless for us to price-spec for you.
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You could also look at NCIX et al and “build one” online which they put together and test for you.
Here’s a link to one for about $2,000 CAD (that’s probably $1,500 US give or take), presuming you’re in the US. You will have to go through the build to make sure it has the right amount of storage etc to meet your needs but it will do fine for BMS or any other flight sim.
http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=9CB05CFE-CA66-4D7E-BD11CC90235E6C9D-6886323#PCTop
Good luck
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belchrs
I built my first rig this year and was able to get a high quality rig for under 1k. (Not including monitor)
I ordered all of my components online through a popular tech site though.
Highly recommend building your own rig because the knowledge you will gain will assist you in upgrades later.
Shadow is definitely right on point with everything he has suggested.My most important advice I would give you is do your research and use this forum as you have already for advice.
Happy hunting
See you in the skies!
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I would get a black one with a fan in the back.
Its a bit outdated but have a look here https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/content.php?132
I would not get a i7 but go for the best i5 you can afford.
Min i5 6500. Spend the money you save on the GPU.Ram will be DDR 4. Min of 8gig. 16gig will future proof you, in more ways then then I will explain here. 3000MHz seem to be a good speed rating at this time. G.Skill is my favored brand, but others like Corsair or Crucial. Kingston was popular in the past.
Motherboards is a big subject. Gigabyte, Asus. MSI is another popular well established name. Asrock make budget boards, try not to. A good board will use a Intel Z170 chipset. The H170 chipset you will find on slightly cheaper boards but, as long as you never want to overclock and lacks some features but is still OK.
Bare minimum GPU: R9 380 or GTX 960 either with 4gig of onboard Ram. A 2gig card will only disappoint you latter.
It seem some of the smaller venders skimp on the quality of Power Supply Units. Good brands like Antec, Coolermaster, Thermaltake or Corsair are the popular PSU with for the most part good Reps. 550/650watt is enough.
Don’t go for a “flashy” looking “case” often the simple looking boxes are actually better.
Antec Three Hundred Two is a very good example http://www.anandtech.com/show/5462/antec-three-hundred-two-stay-cool-budget-enthusiasts. (A good case will have some form of dust filtering.)Hope this helps you make an informed choice, or at least help you know what to look at.
PS: Must have a SSD main drive of 250GB and a mechanical storage drive. Samsung 850 EVO & Western Digital “Blue” are my recommendations.
Good hunting……
As far as cases are concerned, I’m something of a cheapskate and am using a 6 year old case that I bought off a coworker for $20. As long as you replace the fans regularly and the PSU and cabling fits it’s not a big deal. Air flow is key, unless you put liquid cooling in. I’m not quite so big on overclocking, I’ve literally blown up motherboards doing it. One case I have still has the scorchmarks……
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As far as cases are concerned, I’m something of a cheapskate and am using a 6 year old case that I bought off a coworker for $20. As long as you replace the fans regularly and the PSU and cabling fits it’s not a big deal. Air flow is key, unless you put liquid cooling in. I’m not quite so big on overclocking, I’ve literally blown up motherboards doing it. One case I have still has the scorchmarks……
I agree you shouldn’t overspend on a case but to me a well laid out case, like cleanliness, is near to Godliness.
And is after the choice of a good PSU the base for not only this build but usually the next few Rebuilds.A good case provides secure convenient mounting of components, efficient routing of cables, good air flow, clean airflow, adequate and well placed peripheral connections and looks good on or under the desk.
I have a case I purchased for over $200 in 1998 that is still in the family (Grandson) it was the only/best solid case with a washable filter I could find at the time. Back then there was no such thing as a “Gaming” case and unless you had a sever case most towers were poor quality.
I have never blown a board but I have shortened the life span of at least one CPU. I was a big over clocking nut back when overclocking was frowned upon by vendors & a Celeron 300A was the overclocking king
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One thing I would really like in a new case is a hard drive dock. I don’t care about USB3 or Thunderbolt ports on the front, you can always run those off the motherboard or an expansion card. But being able to slide a hard drive into the case instead of breaking out my USB convertor kit would be awesome.
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If you pay for it you can. Nothing new about that.
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I agree, a case isn’t really a priority in the beginning. Just make sure you can cable-manage, have enough fans for good airflow, and that’s it.
However, later on, a good case can be a really cool upgrade. I splurged on a case and I love it! I recently changed my components last December and knowing my case, it was a zen-like experience putting new bits in and routing cables. I’m sure this case will serve me well for the next few upgrades.
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Spending money for the PSU is important, it’s what pumps the blood through your hearts, muscles and brain.
Check the current it can deliver on the lines - cheap PSUs with 650W +up are floating everywhere, but they mostly can’t deliver 50A, making your system probably unstable higher loads with video demands (also check the DataSheet of your Video card regarding required current!)Long story short, my second build had one of such PSUs with high Wattage but low Current, the result was reboots on startup/max power requirements.
Lost a lot of time guessing whether it would be a faulty Mainboard or Videocard.
Luckily I had enough friends in computer stores so I was able to lend parts for testing.
In the end I’ve spent money twice because of the second (Corsair) PSU which runs very well and stable.Not only does it cost time and nerves, but it might also harm (probably less probable) your hardware.
Regarding the case: When I had to build a computer for my father, he wanted just a cheap thing.
The case bent already while unboxing it - even before I began with assembling. Remember, you will open the case several times due to cleaning etc. and probably due to other upgrades/problems/tests.
As a result I gave him a new better case at christmas.And I must admit that I will spend even more money on mine the next time.
I mean my case is nice, it has the button and the interfaces on the upper side which is good when you keep it under the desk.
It is robust and stable, but I will upload a picture to show you how they raped it (well they simply didn’t plan this to the end):Don’t ask me why, but on the top slot, they managed to get the metal so far out that you can barely plug in the DVI, and the HDMI is impossible.
Due to Cockpit works I will buy some tools (like a Dremel), hopefully I can get this piece of sheet away
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My rig does the job for me. Normally sits at 60FPS with VSync on all conditions. See sig for spec
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Been curious in a good combat oriented Flight Sim. I looked at the original F4.0 many years ago. After finding out about BMS, Im highly curious in trying it out again. My Specs are as follows:
AMD A8 Quad-Core Processor 3.2ghz O/C’d to 3.5ghz
AMD Radeon 7470M GPU with 1GB DDR3 VRAM
8GB DDR3 1600 RAM
1TB HDD
21" Screen
I do have a Stick, Throttle and Pedals I use for FSX as well.Would this be good to run F4:BMS at decent settings without an impact and smooth FPS ?
I did look over at the specifications… But not too sure where my Sim Rig would fit into the situation. I definitely know its on the lower side of the spectrum.
But any additional advice would be nice.Thanks All
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Been curious in a good combat oriented Flight Sim. I looked at the original F4.0 many years ago. After finding out about BMS, Im highly curious in trying it out again. My Specs are as follows:
AMD A8 Quad-Core Processor 3.2ghz O/C’d to 3.5ghz
AMD Radeon 7470M GPU with 1GB DDR3 VRAM
8GB DDR3 1600 RAM
1TB HDD
21" Screen
I do have a Stick, Throttle and Pedals I use for FSX as well.Would this be good to run F4:BMS at decent settings without an impact and smooth FPS ?
I did look over at the specifications… But not too sure where my Sim Rig would fit into the situation. I definitely know its on the lower side of the spectrum.
But any additional advice would be nice.Thanks All
-JoeI would upgrade the video card. I think your CPU is ok, but an AMD 7470 isn’t much better than a stock Intel HD chip. I would go with an R9 series or an Nvidia 970. One point about the AMD cards, they use much less power than the comparable Nvidia cards, and you can get by with a smaller PSU. The majority of people say that Nvidia is better performance, but in my opinion the AMD cards have better image quality. Tomato, tomato I guess.
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Yes He needs a real video card, ATI HD 380 or GTX 960 is the entry point for reasonably good performance.
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Yea, this PC is an Off the shelf stock Asus from Best Buy. Nothing special. Been dabbling with the idea of upgrading my GPU. My FSX is really starting to suffer as well with all the addons installed. Excellent. Guess im at my wall until i upgrade.
Thanks again
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Yea, this PC is an Off the shelf stock Asus from Best Buy. Nothing special. Been dabbling with the idea of upgrading my GPU. My FSX is really starting to suffer as well with all the addons installed. Excellent. Guess im at my wall until i upgrade.
Thanks again
-JoeMaybe just try it and see joe? I dont have a great pc by todays standards, but it’s served me very well, and can play bms with some adjustments.