X65 - First Trigger Detent
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Hello guys.
Does someone know how to set first trigger detent with the X65F ?
Do I need to use the in game setup or should I do it via the Saitek program?Thanks!
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if you want to set the BMS command for First Trigger Detent, you can set that however you like, as normal. If you are trying to set a command to happen when you depress the X-65F trigger partway, you will be out of luck, as it does not feature a dual stage trigger. One way around this might be to set the BMS callback for First Trigger Detent to be called when the trigger is depressed, and set its shifted command to be Second Trigger Detent.
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Hey Blu3wolf and thanks for your comment.
What I’m trying to do is to set the trigger to both actions: 1st and 2nd trigger detent.
How do I set it to be “shifted command”?Thanks a lot !
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Both callbacks at once… the only way I can see to do that is not something Id recommend, as it would require using the SST.
To set up a shifted command for the stick, you will want to have a read of the keyfile manual by kolbe, located in your install folder.
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SOF, I’d be curious to hear if you get the Kolbe method to work.I never could get shifted behavior on my -65. My workaround for first detent was to simply map to to another button.
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Although I have a Cougar, maybe a glimpse at my key file might help…The cougar is the #1 device in the DX sorting file…
#==================================================================================
SimDoNothing -1 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 -2 “========= HOTAS UNSHIFTED =========”
SimTriggerFirstDetent 0 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimPickle 1 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimHotasPinkyShift 2 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimAPOverride 3 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimMissileStep 4 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTriggerSecondDetent 5 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTMSUp 6 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTMSRight 7 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTMSDown 8 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTMSLeft 9 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDMSUp 10 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDMSRight 11 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDMSDown 12 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDMSLeft 13 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCMSUp 14 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCMSRight 15 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCMSDown 16 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCMSLeft 17 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCursorEnable 18 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTransmitCom2 19 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTransmitCom1 20 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCommsSwitchRight 21 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCommsSwitchLeft 22 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimToggleMissileCage 23 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimSelectSRMOverride 24 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimSelectMRMOverride 25 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
AFBrakesOut 26 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
AFBrakesIn 27 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
#==================================================================================
SimDoNothing -1 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 -2 “========= HOTAS SHIFTED =========”
SimDoNothing 256 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
AFResetTrim 257 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimHotasPinkyShift 258 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimEject 259 -1 -2 0 0x0 117
SimFuelDoorToggle 260 -1 -2 0 0x0 311
SimDoNothing 261 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 262 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 263 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 264 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 265 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
OTWSelect3DCockpitMode 266 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
OTWStepNextPadlock 267 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
OTWToggle3DEmptyShell 268 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
OTWStepPrevPadlock 269 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 270 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimExtlPower 271 -1 -2 0 0x0 115
SimDoNothing 272 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
ToggleNVGMode 273 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimEmergencyJettison 274 -1 -2 0 0x0 123
SimDoNothing 275 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 276 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 277 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 278 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimSpotLight 279 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 280 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 281 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 282 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 283 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
AFElevatorTrimUp 2 -1 -3 0 0x0 0
SimDoNothing 2 -1 -3 1 0x0 0
AFAileronTrimRight 2 -1 -3 2 0x0 0
SimDoNothing 2 -1 -3 3 0x0 0
AFElevatorTrimDown 2 -1 -3 4 0x0 0
SimDoNothing 2 -1 -3 5 0x0 0
AFAileronTrimLeft 2 -1 -3 6 0x0 0
SimDoNothing 2 -1 -3 7 0x0 0
#==================================================================================It is critical that the SimHotasPinkyShift call back appears in both the unshifted and shifted sections… above you can see it is defined as Cougar button 3.
If i wanted to change it up so that a shifted trigger would call the second trigger call back I would modify it as below:
#==================================================================================
SimDoNothing -1 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 -2 “========= HOTAS UNSHIFTED =========”
SimTriggerFirstDetent 0 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimPickle 1 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimHotasPinkyShift 2 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimAPOverride 3 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimMissileStep 4 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 5 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTMSUp 6 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTMSRight 7 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTMSDown 8 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTMSLeft 9 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDMSUp 10 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDMSRight 11 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDMSDown 12 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDMSLeft 13 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCMSUp 14 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCMSRight 15 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCMSDown 16 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCMSLeft 17 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCursorEnable 18 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTransmitCom2 19 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimTransmitCom1 20 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCommsSwitchRight 21 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimCommsSwitchLeft 22 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimToggleMissileCage 23 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimSelectSRMOverride 24 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimSelectMRMOverride 25 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
AFBrakesOut 26 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
AFBrakesIn 27 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
#==================================================================================
SimDoNothing -1 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 -2 “========= HOTAS SHIFTED =========”
SimTriggerSecondDetent 256 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
AFResetTrim 257 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimHotasPinkyShift 258 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimEject 259 -1 -2 0 0x0 117
SimFuelDoorToggle 260 -1 -2 0 0x0 311
SimDoNothing 261 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 262 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 263 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 264 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 265 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
OTWSelect3DCockpitMode 266 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
OTWStepNextPadlock 267 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
OTWToggle3DEmptyShell 268 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
OTWStepPrevPadlock 269 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 270 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimExtlPower 271 -1 -2 0 0x0 115
SimDoNothing 272 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
ToggleNVGMode 273 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimEmergencyJettison 274 -1 -2 0 0x0 123
SimDoNothing 275 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 276 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 277 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 278 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimSpotLight 279 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 280 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 281 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 282 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
SimDoNothing 283 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
AFElevatorTrimUp 2 -1 -3 0 0x0 0
SimDoNothing 2 -1 -3 1 0x0 0
AFAileronTrimRight 2 -1 -3 2 0x0 0
SimDoNothing 2 -1 -3 3 0x0 0
AFElevatorTrimDown 2 -1 -3 4 0x0 0
SimDoNothing 2 -1 -3 5 0x0 0
AFAileronTrimLeft 2 -1 -3 6 0x0 0
SimDoNothing 2 -1 -3 7 0x0 0
#==================================================================================I’m sure the X-65 is a bit different but, basically it’s just about putting the correct call back with the correct DX number.
All explained in the key file manuals but,Hope this helped a little bit….