Wish the center Freq for Cross country flight
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Wish the center Freq for cross country flight, may be the next 3 to 4 weeks
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Wish the center Freq for cross country flight, may be the next 3 to 4 weeks
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Thanks for response, you"re right, but only at war situation. May be BMS is considered only as war simulation.
Like Balkan theater , the airspace is controlled by zivil organisation Euro Control and all airplane including military AC are lead from one to the other controlled Airspace to approach at destination. -
BMS is only a war simulator. No civilian traffic or frequencies. To be honest, centre only really monitors you anyway and then tells you to go to the next controller. The real action happens with arrival and tower.
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Thanks for your response I agree with you
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BMS is only a war simulator. No civilian traffic or frequencies. To be honest, centre only really monitors you anyway and then tells you to go to the next controller. The real action happens with arrival and tower.
Well, depending how busy your destination is. Flying into an international airport on a busy lane of arrival, its not terribly unusual for centre to be giving you sequencing instructions over a hundred miles out.
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Thanks for response, you"re right, but only at war situation. May be BMS is considered only as war simulation.
Like Balkan theater , the airspace is controlled by zivil organisation Euro Control and all airplane including military AC are lead from one to the other controlled Airspace to approach at destination.Unless youâre referring to the Central Flow Management Unit (CFMU), EUROCONTROL doesnât control any airspace in the Balkans. Maastricht Upper Area Control (MASUAC) is the only Control Centre of EUROCONTROL, and they take care of this area over FL245.
A few years ago, I went to a lecture by an AWACS operator, and IIRC, during the Kosovo War, all air traffic was monitored by (at least) two E3 AWACS at all times, but they only controlled military aircraft. Civilian traffic over Italy never stopped, and military aircraft had to adhere to Airspace Coordination Orders (ACO), but were given right of way while on combat missions. From time to time, they did have to check in with civilian controllers, though, as civilian ATC would be responsible for separation.
In BMS however, for the time being, that is all moot, as we have no civilian traffic to affect us. Also, in the Korean Theater, I donât think civilian traffic would continue like it would in the Balkans Theater. (except maybe in the south of South Korea, and Japan?)
To be honest, centre only really monitors you anyway and then tells you to go to the next controller. The real action happens with arrival and tower.
You obviously have no idea of all the things an Area Controller has to do. I know for a fact that every single day, Area Controllers over Belgium, France, The Netherlands, and sometimes even Germany are already coordinating and working on the traffic flow into London Heathrow. If they didnât, LHR would be completely overwhelmed. Even more than it is already.
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It would certainly be nice to be able to put civilian air traffic into a campaign. In KTO it probably wouldnât continue, at least around Seoul, but in others it might. It would also add some interesting IFF problems, right now itâs not exactly difficult to just interrogate everyone and have a good idea of who you can shoot (though I still try to have everything declared by AWACS, just to be on the safe side).
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Imagine the fun you could have with player RWR trying to sort out all those different brands of weather radars attached to aircraftâŚ
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You obviously have no idea of all the things an Area Controller has to do. I know for a fact that every single day, Area Controllers over Belgium, France, The Netherlands, and sometimes even Germany are already coordinating and working on the traffic flow into London Heathrow. If they didnât, LHR would be completely overwhelmed. Even more than it is already.
Being a commercial airline pilot I have a pretty good idea how the operation works. That being said my experience is Canadian airspace with some US experience as well. Our airspace is mostly empty in the higher central sectors so not much happens. The most I have to deal with is the odd crossing time into Vancouver.
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⌠It would also add some interesting IFF problems.
Why ⌠? What you be the problems?
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For one, it would mean you actually need to check if your bogey is a bandit or just a hapless airliner. So far, in the campaign it seems to amount to ânot squawking mode 4=fair gameâ. Havenât yet ran into a case where two subsequent IFF interrogations wouldnât give me the definite idea as to which side the contact is on.
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So far, in the campaign it seems to amount to ânot squawking mode 4=fair gameâ.
That is true most of the time, but not 100%. On Bear Trap campaign I almost shot down one of our plane because He didnât responded to IFF, and I thought the same. Luckily He got only a damage, and went home (I got court martial anyway).
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The name/acronym âIFFâ : Identification Friend or Foe ⌠is indeed confusing and very badly chosen. IFF no NEVER allow you to know if a contact is an enemy ⌠It can ONLY tell you when it is a friendly.
If you firing on an non responding contact or on a âbadâ reply ⌠IRL => you will go in jail. In game => you do not understand what IFF is.
Airliners are using M3C ⌠AWACS knows that they are ânot banditâ. A real bandit would be âstupidâ to use any fake M3C as deception.
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A real bandit would be âstupidâ to use any fake M3C as deception.
Why?
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The name/acronym âIFFâ : Identification Friend or Foe ⌠is indeed confusing and very badly chosen. IFF no NEVER allow you to know if a contact is an enemy ⌠It can ONLY tell you when it is a friendly.
If you firing on an non responding contact or on a âbadâ reply ⌠IRL => you will go in jail. In game => you do not understand what IFF is.
Airliners are using M3C ⌠AWACS knows that they are ânot banditâ. A real bandit would be âstupidâ to use any fake M3C as deception.
Iâve been checking with AWACS, of course, especially since it usually also gives me aircraft type, which is a good way to ensure I wonât end up chasing a Su-30MKK or something and get an R-77 in the face before I even realize what Iâm messing with. Those things are mean. In fact, Iâm wary of going after bandits which it doesnât identify (unless theyâre obviously helos, you wonât find many R-77 launchers hovering at 6000ft), just so that I donât bite off more than I can chew. That doesnât change the fact that itâs a rare situation that I would be wrong if I just went by IFF, and in BMS it has no consequences.
TBH, AWACS makes things easy no matter what. Q-2-You know everything. Civilian traffic would be add more to the mix in case AWACS isnât available. Chasing after an airliner to make sure itâs an airliner burns fuel and takes up your time. Right now, you can be pretty certain that going after a nonresponsive contact will be worth it, even if you donât engage until you ID it. Presence of civilian traffic would require accounting for additional criteria and add some extra uncertainty. Even better, many Russian aircraft are dual purpose, with civilian and military versions differing mostly by livery, giving further reasons to be careful.
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The name/acronym âIFFâ : Identification Friend or Foe ⌠is indeed confusing and very badly chosen. IFF no NEVER allow you to know if a contact is an enemy ⌠It can ONLY tell you when it is a friendly.
If you firing on an non responding contact or on a âbadâ reply ⌠IRL => you will go in jail. In game => you do not understand what IFF is.
Airliners are using M3C ⌠AWACS knows that they are ânot banditâ. A real bandit would be âstupidâ to use any fake M3C as deception.
Dee-Jay, given your real world flying (and apologies if this is a stupid question, Iâm still a newbie to RL flying), do you foresee âtraditionalâ SSR based transponders being entirely phased out in favour of the likes of Mode S / ADS-B etc?
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Thanks for your professional information, really interesting âŚthanks