Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X
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Hi BlueRaven,
I couldn’t wait as no Hotas programmed = no flying, haha. So I had to read up and try. But thanks to you - your key file was a good help.
One question. I couldn’t find the answers on the net. During Instant Action or Furball, my Wingman Commands (W) are greyed out. If I radio the Tower (not greyed out), there is no response. What am I missing?
I know BMS uses VHF/UHF and all those channels for realistic commns. I’ve read the manual but not entirely sure what the UHF/VHF buttons mapped on the throttle do. Still new to it. I don’t fly MP, not yet at least as I am not ready.
Cheers
If your wingman menu is greyed out, it basically means you don’t have a wingman …. shot down maybe, or crashed, or maybe was never in the flight. You’re not getting a tower response because you’re on the wrong frequency, or, maybe, too far away.
UHF/VHF buttons are used for player-to-player communication (on the same freq). The menu system is used to ‘communicate’ (give orders, or make requests) with AI pilots, ATC, AWACS, etc.
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If your wingman menu is greyed out, it basically means you don’t have a wingman …. shot down maybe, or crashed, or maybe was never in the flight. You’re not getting a tower response because you’re on the wrong frequency, or, maybe, too far away.
UHF/VHF buttons are used for player-to-player communication (on the same freq). The menu system is used to ‘communicate’ (give orders, or make requests) with AI pilots, ATC, AWACS, etc.
Hi AgaveBlue,
In Furball, I added a Wingman. When it starts, I seem to issue an automatic call to the Wingman to go Spread. But the W menu is still greyed out.
Are the UHF/VHF buttons only used in MP IVC chat - I mean like you click it and then speak into the mic?
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Are the UHF/VHF buttons only used in MP IVC chat - I mean like you click it and then speak into the mic?Yes.
…. In Furball, I added a Wingman. When it starts, I seem to issue an automatic call to the Wingman to go Spread. But the W menu is still greyed out.
I hear you, but if the menu is greyed out, he’s not there. Another possibility, you might be in the #2 seat. You can’t give commands to lead from #2.
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BlueRaven et al: Thanks for helping us out…but I think I must be missing something. I downloaded the file, loaded it, hit “apply”, and saved it as my own.
I can see the two different “hat” setups but when I get in the cockpit the POV doesn’t work.
I’ve tried hitting, and holding the shift key, but it didn’t seem to work.
What am I missing? Is there a “pinky” switch on the joystick I must hit too?
I’d love to use the hat for the radar cursor…“shifted”
Thanks in advance for your help.
Gary in Salisbury, MD -
Hi Raven;
I just bought the TM X Hotas stick and have 3 questions… (I bought Falcon 4.0 years ago but haven’t played for years - so I’m a novice at this!!!)
1. Do you have the key file for this that I could download? (The one on the BMS forum you provided refers to the Thrustmaster Cougar Hotas so I was reluctant to use it)
2. As far as I can see, this stick does not have a 2nd detente option so would I use the pinky button to activate the shift function?
3. After installing the stick, the throttle doesn’t respond and the rudder seems to affect the throttle in some way. Are you aware of a solution to this? This device appears to be OK when using the windows 7 device driver.Sure would appreciate your help!
Thanks
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I am new to Falcon BMS and haven’t used Falcon f4 for ages so I somewhat clueless here but am really impressed by how many are willing to help! I just bought the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X and have 2 questions:
1. I noticed the BMS is ignoring my throttle even though when testing with Falcon 4.0 it runs OK. Can anyone tell me why? And is there a thread here that will give me a solution?
2. I examined your BlueRaven .zip file and your comments mention that this is the Full Real TM Hotas Cougar DX button mapping. Will this work with the TM T-Jlight Hotas ?Thanks
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I am new to Falcon BMS and haven’t used Falcon f4 for ages so I somewhat clueless here but am really impressed by how many are willing to help! I just bought the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X and have 2 questions:
1. I noticed the BMS is ignoring my throttle even though when testing with Falcon 4.0 it runs OK. Can anyone tell me why? And is there a thread here that will give me a solution?
2. I examined your BlueRaven .zip file and your comments mention that this is the Full Real TM Hotas Cougar DX button mapping. Will this work with the TM T-Jlight Hotas ?Thanks
Change the throttle axis to “Z Axis - T Flight HOTAS X”
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Thanks Krippz, I’ll give it a try. Sure appreciate your help!
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Worked like a charm! Thanks… you guys are wesome!
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BlueRaven et al: Thanks for helping us out…but I think I must be missing something. I downloaded the file, loaded it, hit “apply”, and saved it as my own.
I can see the two different “hat” setups but when I get in the cockpit the POV doesn’t work.
I’ve tried hitting, and holding the shift key, but it didn’t seem to work.
What am I missing? Is there a “pinky” switch on the joystick I must hit too?
I’d love to use the hat for the radar cursor…“shifted”
Thanks in advance for your help.
Gary in Salisbury, MDHi, sorry for replying only now.
The file does not use POV hat for view panning because I have TrackIR, try the modification by GrEaSeLiTeNiN you’ll find in this post.P.S. the Shift keyboard button does not act as DX shift, you can only use the pinky shift button on the throttle (button 9).
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Hi Raven;
I just bought the TM X Hotas stick and have 3 questions… (I bought Falcon 4.0 years ago but haven’t played for years - so I’m a novice at this!!!)
1. Do you have the key file for this that I could download? (The one on the BMS forum you provided refers to the Thrustmaster Cougar Hotas so I was reluctant to use it)
2. As far as I can see, this stick does not have a 2nd detente option so would I use the pinky button to activate the shift function?
3. After installing the stick, the throttle doesn’t respond and the rudder seems to affect the throttle in some way. Are you aware of a solution to this? This device appears to be OK when using the windows 7 device driver.Sure would appreciate your help!
Thanks
Hi mate, sorry for the late reply:
1. Please see my original post, I just updated it with a newer version of the file.
Don’t worry about the references to the Cougar, they are default in the stock keyfiles… my configuration lies at the very bottom of the keyfile, so that bindings will override Cougar’s ones and all will work perfectly.2. I don’t see the link between 2nd detent and shifting (what do you mean?); anyway yes, in order to activate the shifted layer you must use the pinky shift bound button (button 9).
3. I see your problem is solved, kudos to Krippz for helping.
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Thank you
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I’m trying to use GrEaSeLiTeNiN’s keyfile to retain POV panning on the hat switch, since I don’t have TrackIR either.
However, I’m running into issues where when I launch a flight, all the buttons and POV hat are unshifted, but just clicking (rather than even holding) the pinky switch for DX shift just once will permanently force the DX shift.
Even if I hit or hold the pinky switch again, to try and deactivate the DX shift, the buttons on the throttle and stick still perform the shifted function.Any ideas why this may be happening?
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@abfagin:
I’m trying to use GrEaSeLiTeNiN’s keyfile to retain POV panning on the hat switch, since I don’t have TrackIR either.
However, I’m running into issues where when I launch a flight, all the buttons and POV hat are unshifted, but just clicking (rather than even holding) the pinky switch for DX shift just once will permanently force the DX shift.
Even if I hit or hold the pinky switch again, to try and deactivate the DX shift, the buttons on the throttle and stick still perform the shifted function.Any ideas why this may be happening?
Hi mate, check the ‘Mapping the Shift Button’ in the DirectX Shifting Facility article here on the site: it sounds exactly like you are missing the needed second definition of the shifting callback in the shifted layer (see the note at the end of the paragraph).
Also, check Kolbe’s excellent keyfile documentation, you’ll find it into x:\Falcon BMS 4.33 U1\Docs\Key Files & Input\BMS Key File Manual.pdf.
I absolutely recommend it, it will shed way more light on how the whole keyfile thing works. -
Hi!
i have use your keyfile in my falcon bms 33
some days ago i have update at u4 and i dont know why, but i cant use most of the precedent keyfile.
ex: target lock… generally use by pressing button 5, now this function is used to change the radar scan in left mfd.
weapon release… generally use by pressing button 2, now this function is used for another radar function (i dont remember)
i had the original file called falcon bms bluraven.keyfile, and i try to install the bluraven hotasX.keyfile, without change.
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I use it and even if it has few buttons/hats with DirectX shifting you can map quite a good number of functions to it.
Please find my keyfile attached, it’s based on the new “BMS Full” 4.33 keyfile so you have all the latest and greatest stuff already available.
Let me know if you need help with it.EDIT: hi all, sorry for being away for so many time… RL calling. :roll:
I have updated the attached file, it’s based on a newer version of “BMS - Full.key” stock keyfile and has some minor changes to assignments (e.g. the shifted trigger now activates DF Override instead of MRM Override).
Unfortunately, this will be the last update as I went to T.16000M FCS HOTAS… I hope you all will enjoy and find it useful again.Thanks Raven! That was also helpful for me!!!
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Is it possible to get this for 4.34?
I copy the Tm Hotas code from GrEaSeLiTeNiN at the end of the new BMS Full from 4.34.
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It looks as though Raven’s profile will be the one to use and I can’t wait to. With that said I need some help just figuring out how to get BMS to let me use the TQ and the stick as the same time. I notice that in game, controller set up let’s me pick on or the other to set commands, but does not seem to recognize the TQ as a sperate control of the throttle. Throttle defaults to the slider on the stick. Thrustmaster say to use their TARGET software and load a configuration, but BMS does not seem to have any FCF files. Can anyone help me make this work? Thank you.
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Stupid me, I just asked this very question about the throttle before seeing Krippz’s post. Going to give it a try.
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I’m having the same problem with my throttle and slider. I can easily find the settings and configuration file but it does not give me an option to calibrate or switch the Z axis. I’m using the T-Flight HOTAS X stick and running Windows 10 Pro. I’ve searched all over for a file that can configure my joystick with no luck. I would appreciate any help with this matter.
Thanks