Hud brightness over clouds
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I know that a key can switch colors of the writing . . . not very RL action.
What do RL pilot do at this situation, any tips ?
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Hi regev,
I had the same Problem, but I saw nothing (!). As I turned on the cockpit-reflections,
I was able to read the HUD again. Do you have turned off the Relections, too?
In RL the Pilots have the same Problem. How they solve this? I don’t know… -
Do you mean the canopy reflection ?
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RL HUD symbology is always bright enough, there is no problem with white background etc. There is even a real gopro vid out there in YT with an MLU viper landing in full fog / IFR conditions, and the pilot even decreases the hud brightness on the short final in order to better view the landing lights. As per your sim picture above, the HUD colors are altered by the white clouds, which of course is not accurate.
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There is even a real gopro vid out there in YT with an MLU viper landing in full fog / IFR conditions, and the pilot even decreases the hud brightness on the short final in order to better view the landing lights.
Link to that video, please?
Best regards,
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I know that a key can switch colors of the writing . . . not very RL action.
What do RL pilot do at this situation, any tips ?
Actually, it’s extremely RL…there are many situations in which a RL HUD is difficult - if not impossible - to see. And this appears to be modeled very nicely in BMS…as long as you stick to using the spec color.
RL solutions - 1) fiddle with brightness/contrast; 2) put the HUD on an MFD; 3) fly out of the situation.
I’d suggest trying 1) first…as changing HUD colors is not generally a RL solution…not one that I’ve ever heard of, anyway. Your HUD looks really under-contrast, to me.
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I brought this up in the past and was told to just deal with it. So, that’s what i’m doing. I could change the color easy enough, but that’s not like RL, so I don’t.
However, there’s nothing stopping a real pilot from leaning in closer to see the HUD better, so that’s what I do.
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I thought in RL the HUD display was Green not White for this very reason ???
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Did not think of this option . . . thanks man
AFAIK this isn’t possible in a real Viper either?
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AFAIK this isn’t possible in a real Viper either?
I would think it would be there as a RL back up - and that in RL during an instrument approach that a pilot (or Instructor) might have it up on the MFD as a backup. I know it’s USN practice to do that (particularly on approach to the CV).
I just took a quick look at FAF Mac (because that happens to be the desk I’m sitting at) and you can put the HUD on an MFD. If you can get there on FAF, I’d wager that you can do it in BMS.
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You cant in a real one. Backseat has a center extra display showing hud with camera view, but not on mfd.
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…hhhmmmn…I should have thought this would be basic aircraft operation, maybe for certain Block and up. It is sort of “buried” on the MFD, but I had the option with just a couple MFD button presses in FAF from top level. I’ll take a look at BMS.
Edit: Ok, I checked BMS 4.33 and FocalDesign is correct - I can’t find the HUD display option I found in FAF. In FAF if you press the HSD button to get to the top menu HUD is an option on the MFD…but in BMS HAD is in that button location and I can’t find a HUD selection. Though I see it is possible to select HUD as an option for display on an MFD in WDP…so I’d give that a try and see what happens.
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In real, hud view on the Viper MFD’s was implemented within software tapes for the backseat cockpit pilot back in Block 30/32 era, in order for him to be able to view the hud instrumentation since there was no dedicated hud monitor back them. Later blocks (after 40/42) where equipped with the new ASHM monitors in the aft pit, thus the mfd option for the hud display was hidden as a selection (not deleted in the software) in the later tapes.
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Ok…so I just verified that in BMS 4.33 you can get the HUD on an MFD if you set HUD as a display option for an MFD in WDP. Not only do you get the ability to cycle through HUD using the DMS switch, you also get an MFD push button to select HUD, so you can operate between HUD and any display that way.
So that’s how ya do it for BMS, folks! I’ll be doing this from now on.
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so, obvious choice for real pilots is lean forward and it is not working for us.
i am still wondering… what do you need the hud for…?
you are in nav / master arm - sim -> so i guess you don’t actualy need to see something it is just retorical
my answer would be nothing… if changing the brightness of hud doesn’t work nothing will(at least in bms)
consider these facts
alt/speed/artificial horison/HSI are all availiable (backup insturments) so no actual navigation problem since hsi will point to selected stpt when in nav
iirc aim 120 shows dlz bracket etc on fcr too (havent fired one in a vary long time i might be wrong)
and basicaly almost everything you get on hud you can get it from somewhere else so why bother? -
so why bother?
It is crucial the backseat pilot (mostly the instructor since the D is a training variant mostly) to view the front-part world image + instrumentation directly at his eyes/head position, exactly as the front pilot does. For the latest D models that “training” -variant aspect lives together with the “missionized” -capabilities in the software, along with the new colored ASHM’s monitor the rear officer can fully perform tasks of the frontman and vice-versa.
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It must not be that important…as the Hornet gets by without it and always has, from the beginning. In fact, the B/D Hornets only have the option to repeat on any DDI…for the D also on the MPCD. For the F, it can also display the HUD on any display surface - including the UFCD, but only the later Lots have the UFCD located above the glare shield where a HUD would actually be. And NONE of them display any OTW video behind the raster symbology in any case.
An IP is supposed to be experienced enough to land the jet in bad weather on instruments only - and from the back seat, at that - in an emergency, bad weather, if the student can’t hack it, or all of the foregoing. Pretty sure they can hack that…even with nothing but the ADI working.