Mountains at the Ground FCR are fictitious and not useful for low flights
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If you want to fly low, use the TFR
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I you try to fly along the valley acc to the FCR with exposed hills you will bump to the hills. My be I interpret the exposed hills on the FCR wrong. I think if I compare to the UI map it is not also the same location as it is exposed on the FCR.
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Not all F16 can carry LATRIN and not all are equipped with TFR. The mission planning tool is the one who offers you the F16, accept it or not and try the best to do for mission success.
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Actually, you may choose the right tool for the right mission in the TE
so if you want to make low level flights, take a block 40
if you want to do seal, take a block 50that’s how it works
Now if you want to do air to air with a C-160 transall, then you may have a problemSome aircraft are specialized in some areas. Use them accordingly
Some sensors are specialized as well, the AG FCR is no navigation radar, it’s a ground attack radar.I actually never though of using the radar to navigate through mountains, that should be done visually
if you have no visual and have to revert to sensors, then you need to use the right sensor :TFR
Using the radar is just a cry to lawndart anyway. With or without accurate terrainRemember the right tool make the good handyman
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You’re right if we talk about TE you can select it, but not for camp.
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Mountains at the ground FCR are fictitious and not useful for low flights, let me know your experience.
Known issue.
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That’s great , thank you for the info.
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You’re right if we talk about TE you can select it, but not for camp.
36th sqn from Osan is present with block 40 in campaigns
there are also 2 sqn of block 40 at KunsanEvery campaign in 4.33 has block 40 sqn …
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@Red:
36th sqn from Osan is present with block 40 in campaigns
there are also 2 sqn of block 40 at KunsanEvery campaign in 4.33 has block 40 sqn …
It’s about time to have 4.34 man, 4.33’s been here for 3 years and there are still people in the dev team who hadn’t realized block 40 hadn’t been provided with FLIR, unlike 42
PS: I understand better now why there’s been no 42 committed to the vanilla campaigns; the manual says 40 has LANTIRN, the training missions perfectly teach you how to use LANTIRN… I guess that the 40 not actually having LANTIRN is totally a mistake. It was mentioned several times, to be honest, but people learn to add a squadron of (sitting duck) 42 when they want a LANTIRN, or fly a Mirage 2000D , or change the dat file to give the 40 a LANTIRN. Having the possibility to choose your pod without ticking a box (and having it persisting through reconnection and while entering 3D in flight) would be a new shiny luxury in 3-4 weeks, but - for now - I’ll let the dreams to the world of dreams.
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@lorik
I too thought the LANTIRN was left off of the block 40’s by mistake, but after talking with Manos a while back, I believe it may have been omitted purposefully. A nice example of attention to detail if so…
EDIT: did some research, many combat wings & Squadrons replaced Lantirn with the Sniper as it considered in some aspects 4 times better than the Lantirn, even some F-15E’s combat wings/squadrons started to using them, so (if im wrong some of the devs can correct me) because the BMS team always try to have into the database the “latest” updated version of each plane thats why BLK 40 has the sniper and for the nostalgic people probably kept the Lantirn in the 42’s. Also consider the TO weignt its less when using the sniper as u use onlly 1 pod and not 2 as the lantirn, plus you have the advantage of asymetrical load out and use HTS as well and drop in one of the wing pylons an Harm missile. SO in a thread of a forum i just read says that Sniper is the Lantirn replacement as it carries the latest and more advanced FLIR and TFR technology.
So the question here is what ERA you want to have pre-Lantirn or after? this needs to be researched to when the blk 40 squadrons started to use Sniper -
@Red:
Using the radar is just a cry to lawndart anyway. With or without accurate terrain
Well, to his credit before TFRs became “common” (Mirage 2000Ns and Mirage 2000Ds) that’s how night/all weather low-level penetration was done by Armée de l’Air Mirage IIIEs, for instance. It worked, though it was certainly not for the faint-hearted.
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@lorik
I too thought the LANTIRN was left off of the block 40’s by mistake, but after talking with Manos a while back, I believe it may have been omitted purposefully. A nice example of attention to detail if so…
I’m already in the world of dreams, mate
If it’s not a mistake, then the manual is mistaken in form and content (list of F16 blocks having a LANTIRN, whole procedure in two manuals about its use). It irons out my opinion a bit more. That, added to the kind of context vanilla KTO provides, and last but not least, the beloved manuals’ main author’s post above.
Whether it’s a mistake or on purpose, it will always be a guess on my part, and a fact for the BMS team. It doesn’t really matter much now, .34 is around the corner.
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Yeah, you’re right, guess the manual contradicts that idea. Well as you said, would be great if you could choose Sniper or LANTIRN in the loadout menu.
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You’re right if we talk about TE you can select it, but not for camp.
If you do not have access to the tools you need in a campaign, use Mission Commander to add them. We have added (and removed) many different aircraft in our 24/7 public multiplayer campaign to offer options to players. You can edit a campaign already in progress, too, if you want. No real life fighter pilot would fly a low level mission using only the FCR, so if you want to simulate that sort of mission, simulate real life as best you can by taking the aircraft with the tools required for the job, as mentioned above.
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@Red:
If you want to fly low, use the TFR
and the FLIR.???
As I know the opening post says something about LOS for radar calculation and terrain mask. I guess he wanted to say in many cases radar still track you while it should not. -
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As I know the opening post says something about LOS for radar calculation and terrain mask. I guess he wanted to say in many cases radar still track you while it should not.???
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I can’t find it. The opening post has one line that is not about it.In this case pls. translate to me what it means the opening post because I have no idea what it means.
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I don’t know mate, that’s your own words.
EDIT: if by any chance, you meant “OP”, as Original Poster, then same remark: I can’t find where he speaks of SAM radars LOS and terrain. In this thread.