Airbrake indicator sound mod
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@TAGMAN:
Yes some futher sounds and effects needed for the fun an experience of it!
I will add one more “Sonic Boom Sound” with the effect of it!
And you will totaly scrub the realism of sound environment that be tryed to build…
Sonic Boom is not audible inside he plane!
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+1.
But to be fair I think he meant the overall outside power. TBH Lock On was the only ‘sim’ so far (really the only) that got that brutally loud, especially with mods.
But I agree, inside is what counts and here BMS is unmatched.
Best Reg.Tom
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My .02?
You can look to the left aux console and see whether the speedbrakes are open or not.
You can look at fuel flow, nozzle position or rpm and know whether you’re in afterburner.Situational Awareness is a HUGE part of being a good pilot - never mind being a good fighter pilot. These kinds of things should be second-nature and something you just ‘know.’ (In particular the AB…your hand is on the throttle, is it not?)
I’m not a fighter pilot IRL, but BMS has done an outstanding job with cockpit sounds, IMO.
Carry on.
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You can look at fuel flow, nozzle position or rpm and know whether you’re in afterburner.
Actually the fuel flow indicator itself generates a rattle sound inside cockpit (= not in helmet ear set, it is not VMS warning / not necessary hearable by the pilot if he is wearing ear proofs) when in AB as an additional “audio” warning to the pilot. This sound has been extracted and provided to the devs already.
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Well, I’m going to make a louder volume version of brakwind then anyways. I’ll have it done in a couple of hours. I’ll also make a softer version of the sound that indicates data-link is on… personally, I find it a bit annoying when you have to listen to that for 1.5 hours. But I wouldn’t want to tweak more. I understand much research went into this soundpack.
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Hi all,
I understand and respect all responses after my above post all good with me.
Sounds are good no complaint, just my opinion!
Just a thought here, pilots to don’t fly outside plane looking at plane like superman. LoL
So what I was suggesting is when you are looking at plane from outside add the Sonic Boom sound and effect!
************** Also add some sound and effects along the water like this real B1B Lancer pic, awesome!
I really enjoy this stuff It feels awesome, to pull it off!
Anyway its all fun imo.
**Thanks,
TAGMAN**
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@TAGMAN:
So what I was suggesting is when you are looking at plane from outside add the Sonic Boom sound and effect!
Okay … understand …
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@TAGMAN:
************** Also add some sound and effects along the water like this real B1B Lancer pic, awesome!
Hehe, that’s not real
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Wizard,
Are you saying that when the AB is on IRL, there’s no difference in the noise heard or sensation felt by the pilot? That’s hard to imagine. I’ll defer to someone who actually knows the answer to this. Maybe you do. I don’t pretend to. If there is a difference, I’d like to incorporate that into my sounds. It would help with my situational awareness…not to mention my fuel state.
Web
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One of the BMS guys will likely have a better answer.
My understanding:
Audio clues? No. You’re wearing VERY good hearing protection to focus the VMS/radio sounds into your ears and not the wind/engine. Can the pilot hear it at all? Perhaps.
Sensory clues? Sure. I well-imagine the pilot can feel the added thrust.I’m heading to bed now, but if you do a search in the tech support forum (I think) about AAA, or a user named SoBad, there was a long thread about audio feedback the pilot receives while flying from outside events. Basically the BMS guys have created a very good soundstage, and in fact, BOOSTED some sounds because players need feedback of some sorts that the real pilot would get from OTHER senses, but PC users cannot.
-Wizard
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@Web:
I’ll defer to someone who actually knows the answer to this.
The sounds were already made by consulting people who know the answers (in addition of course to extensive study of both headset and cockpit sound recordings). What we have as a base and assuming recommended sound settings is verified as realistic, at least in-cockpit sounds. And as Wizard says, some sounds were actually slightly boosted. If you want even more feedback or more exciting sounds that’s your choice, but if you perceive something as unrealistic IMO you shouldn’t, unless you have either flown in the real thing or had a real pilot tell you it’s not right.
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@Web:
Wizard,
Are you saying that when the AB is on IRL, there’s no difference in the noise heard or sensation felt by the pilot?
I do confirm on M2000 (sorry!), AftB makes no real sound differences (it is why there are lights to confirm that AftB are on!) … the only thing you feel is the increased thrust… What you hear in BMS is what you can hear (or “feel”) IRL…
And inside a Mirage2000, MirageF1, Jaguar or Alpha Jet cockpits, we “do not” really hear the engine; but we “mainly” hear the airflow from air conditioning.
… According to an F-16 driver, it’s the same on F-16.
Yes we can hear a bit of the engine but the main noise is coming from the cabin pressurization, air conditioning system.
These are my favourite videos to illustrate this:
- WITH helmet AND earplug:
- WITH helmet NO earplug:
- WITHOUT helmet, NO earplug:
F-16
(This example is not really good because microphone is saturated… we could believe that we are hearing engine rumble!… but it is “mainly” aircond and external air flow)Alpha Jet
T45
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Well there are differences… Afterburner sound inside cockpit at low speeds or take off roll covers everything else. That is for both the viper and the mirage.
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Who are using a Cougar here? (no need of this beep sound if you set your AB switch like in real F-16)
Same with my X52Pr0 Profile.
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@Raptor: Are you saying that in BMS, AftB sound inside ckpt is not accurate ?
Well there are differences… Afterburner sound inside cockpit at low speeds or take off roll covers everything else. That is for both the viper and the mirage.
Yep of course, it is why I said “AftB makes no real sound differences” … but not what the most of simmer believes: it is not like if you were standing outside the aircraft.
Many guys think that when aftB is on, there is a very loud rumble in the ckpt …
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Much needed IMO and very useful. Thank you.
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when aftB is on, there is a very loud rumble in the ckpt
You know Contour HD?
When i’ll find some time i’ll try to prepare something.
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Hi all,
Now these are real! LoL!!!
Watch these video’s:-
These sorts of things would be nice to add to Sim, just for general fun the sound and effect even in a dogfight low flying!
Pilots can pull-off the most astonishing things, you would be surprised, I have an air show video somewhere of an F16 J-Dive and low Cobra attempt!
Then he dashed back into a sonic boom, this was nearly 15 years ago! I just can’t find the footage; if I find it I will upload it!
Anyway!
Have fun with my post!!! LoL
TAGMAN
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Thanks, everyone, for the very helpful feedback. I certainly can understand that the sound of the AB may be negligible due to earphones (not to mention OSHA rules). However, I’m also interested in the vibration felt by the pilot since I have two of these guys attached to my seat. I can feel the rumble of the runway and the engine. I should think the AB vibration would be more intense than that of the regular engine. That’s what I’m interested in.
Web