Microstick X & Y deflections unequal
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Can you show a screen showing the raw data centred i.e. at rest? probably not important.
Silly question and please excuse my ignorance, however, why are you using the toe brakes for the microstick?
See the last post by Boxer - the behaviour you describe re your microstick certainly sounds as if only one axis is assigned - have you assigned both axes in BMS controllers setup?
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Hi ddoc and thanks for keeping the faith! I’ll post a screenshot tomorrow.
I’m using the toebrakes for the microstick because as I understand it of the limitation to 8 axes for one device ie in this case the whole TM cougar stick+throttle+ pedals, in Windows, so if you want 2 axes for the microstick then you can’t have 2 axes for the toebrakes. So by putting the little crosses in the CCRP graphic against axes 7&8 for microstick x & y, instead of default toebrakes, you then get “left toebrake” and “right toebrake” to show up as options for microstick x & y in the “advanced controllers avionics” part of the BMS UI. Once again I am pushing at the envelope of my ignorance here!
Now I do like the suggestion about an “unassigned” axis though. If somehow say it’s got confused and is seeing only the microstick x axis, whether x or y is moved, that would explain why the same value (although not why in opposite directions) is being output for x and y at the same time?
So maybe I need to clear everything out back to zero and start again - not sure how far back I’d need to go?Alan
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Now that you mention the axis limitation, I do seem to remember there was one, I think my solution was to forego the rudder\toe-brakes not ideal but then it was nearly twenty years ago!
Again, I’m sorry I can’t help with ccp\foxy however, a relatively cheap solution that does away with axis limitations and works straight out the box is to get yourself a TUSBA R2 from Realsimulator.
At roughly 70 euros it does indeed breathe new life into the tqs and it’s usb also.
I hope you can get your issue sorted but if not, at least there is a solution in the TUSBA
http://realsimulator.com/html/tusba.html
Worth a look if all else fails.
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I have a similar if not the same problem. My x axis works fine. However my y axis only deflects down a small amount but up almost fully. I think it has got worse in the last few days with even less down deflection. I have a replacement micro-stick that I might put in. But before I do that, I have a TUSBA due to arrive tomorrow. I’ve always wanted to move to the TUSBA since getting the Warthog controls. With the TUSBA I will be able to disconnect from the Cougar stick and free up some desk space!
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Not sure I can add any more, it is difficult but not impossible to move one axis without the other moving, you have to be very precise. I’ve looked at my results in DiView and I’m not seeing anything.
I looked at the set up in BMS, (I actually had them swapped) but it all works either way.Fundamentally, it looks like the microstick axis may be faulty.
One chap has had success in repairing his microstick by cleaning them with an electrical contacts cleaning spray
There is a youtube video about repairs which might help.
if you are competent with a soldering iron. -
Thanks very much ddoc for your input, I will certainly investigate the TUSBA R2 and for the price it’s probably wort a try, in any case it’s probably time to upgrade the gear and I’m also thinking about a force-sensig conversion. Sabre, thanks for your help too I’m inclined to think you’re right, the microstick has died in some mysterious way. Thanks for the link, I’ll follow that up. Scubapics, if I get it fixed I’ll let you know.
Alan
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Likewise I will let you know too.
I know from inspecting the micro stick pcb that the x and y potentiometer supply and ground are wired in parallel. So if it was a supply issue they would both exhibit similar faults. My bet at the moment is that the pot has somehow gone faulty. And in my case, probably getting worse.
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Great. I’ve made a separate post asking about replacement double pot availability. Sabre, that video was really useful, thanks - looks doable once you’ve got the component!
Alan
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Great. I’ve made a separate post asking about replacement double pot availability. Sabre, that video was really useful, thanks - looks doable once you’ve got the component!
Alan
They’re available. I got mine end of last week. Only took a few days and less than 10 euros! Send TM an email.
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Hi Scubapics, could you give me any contact details? I’ve got the part number from the Cougar World site
Alan
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Hi Scubapics, could you give me any contact details? I’ve got the part number from the Cougar World site
Alan
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Right then. My TUSBA arrived today! It’s installed. You need to install the version of Microsoft .net framework that it requests.
The good news is that there is no bad news. I have full x and y axis on my microstick. The calibration facility takes it all into account. It’s working well in the sim. The only thing is you need to choose the microstick x as y and vice versa in the sim. I won’t be changing my microstick. Instead I shall keep it as a spare.
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Make sure you remember which usb port you’ve plugged your TUSBA into, changing ports can have a detrimental effect on the microstick though, it can be resolved with DIview if the realsimulator software can’t fix it……
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Scubapics that’s excellent news, sounds like TUSBA is the way to go then.
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Right then. My TUSBA arrived today! It’s installed. You need to install the version of Microsoft .net framework that it requests.
The good news is that there is no bad news. I have full x and y axis on my microstick. The calibration facility takes it all into account. It’s working well in the sim. The only thing is you need to choose the microstick x as y and vice versa in the sim. I won’t be changing my microstick. Instead I shall keep it as a spare.
I dont understand, what is Tusba doing that makes the microstick deflection better than using the CCP panel software? I was thinking about getting Tusba (I think I read there’s a version 2). Where did you get yours from?
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CCP calibration is somewhat screwed. It was written way before the days of Windows 7. I’m now on Windows 10. Maybe it’s related to that. Certainly the auto calibration doesn’t work at all for me. Manual calibration does not seem to take into account the small swing that I am getting on my microstick. The TUSBA calibration software simply works. The calibration software is also many times better than that of the TM one. You can get one from here… http://realsimulator.com/html/tusba.html
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Hi Scubapics, I just emailed TM an enquiry about a replacement microstick pot. Thanks for the link.
Alan
Edit: just heard from TM - no more microstick pots available!
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Hi Scubapics, I just emailed TM an enquiry about a replacement microstick pot. Thanks for the link.
Alan
Edit: just heard from TM - no more microstick pots available!
Really? I must have had the last one. No worries though. If you ordered the TUSBA I think you will find that will sort out your problems. It did for me. The TM software just didn’t calibrate for me. Maybe a Windows 10 compatibility problem.
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Tusba does not solve the drifting issues
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Indeed it won’t. I didn’t suffer drifting issues, just poor range of deflection. The circuitry inside the TQS is quite basic. It will wither be a supply problem, although that would affect more than one potentiometer, or a capacitive issue perhaps. I’d need to have another look at the circuit to see if it could be anything else. I think Bigfish had the same problem as me looking at his firs post.