Unofficial Israeli Theater 4.34.2 update
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Cougar, I’m entirely grateful that you took the effort of making ITO, one of our most popular theaters, compatible with 4.34.2 in lieu of an official release (for which there is no ETA).
And I fully understand that you did so with full permission of the original authors and that you are not claiming this for yourself whatsoever.Excellent work and don’t let the sh*t stirrers get to you bro.
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and don’t let the sh*t stirrers get to you bro.
Really? Since you’re somewhat new here, why don’t you roll back to when BMS went public and educate yourself.
Are you aware that at that time, Dee-Jay was converting many theaters in the public domain that were available for Falcon to be included for the public in BMS, but were all based over at PMC, including the Balkans theater.
Once Snakeman, the PMC web site owner got wind of this, he threatened BMS with a lawsuit and Dee-Jay was left to abandon his work. These were all theaters that were being worked on by third party people, yet Snakeman claimed ownership because that’s where the work was being discussed, a totally bogus power grab to say the least.
So now, we have certain individuals here claiming ownership of old theaters that aren’t even theirs, saying people need to get permission from them to mod them, that includes Israel, which ended up being a FreeFalcon theater.
I would think that you of all people would recognize that and at least have the honor and respect to acknowledge that! But I guess not, because it’s “awesome work” and you’d rather have that then calling a spade a spade!!!
C9
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@Cloud:
Yet you did!?
Did you and this Balkans Dev team create this Balkans theater from scratch?? Or is it something you just picked up that was out there and all of the sudden you own it?? Just curious!
If your answer is that you made it from scratch, thus it is your property, I can certainly show you that that is not the case!
Just asking!
C9
Seriously dude!!!...why are you starting S@!t?!. I did not take the Balkans…I made it work with 4.33 and 4.34…If you feel offended that I “took” their work…then you dont have to play it. I am fully aware that the Balkans has been part of the Falcon 4 community well before I started messing with it but people like you are what bring this community down. We are all here to try to enjoy a sim and make it better. If you want to get technical, everyone would be playing the Falcon 4.0 1998 version if it hadnt been modded. I do not fully claim any of the theaters. I just made them playable with the current builds. As was said in another post…that we, who are modders, are just here trying to make the BMS and its theaters compatible for everyone to enjoy. If you have problems with the logistics of some of the theaters…you are free to not download them and play them. People around here really need to stop stirring s@!t and be thankful that there are those who want to see BMS survive another 20 years and just enjoy it. If you have a problem with me modding the theaters to make them playable with 4.34 or any other of BMS, then dont play them. While your at it, make sure you let the Aegean, EMF, other Korean campaign, modders etc know how you feel about the theaters and back off of me.
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@Cloud:
Really? Since you’re somewhat new here, why don’t you roll back to when BMS went public and educate yourself.
LMAO… somewhat “new”. LOL. Some comedian you are mate.
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Seriously dude!!!...why are you starting S@!t?!..…and back off of me.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I didn’t say a single thing about you modding any theater, just like I didn’t say anything about any one else modding any theater!!
READ WHAT I POSTED!!
I wouldn’t want them to take the Balkans and release it without going through the Balkans Dev Team
EXACTLY WHAT YOU STATED EARLIER!
My issue with you and a few others here, is, you believe for some reason you OWN the Balkans theater or others, other theaters, and that people need to come through YOU or them and get clearance from YOU or THEM to get permission for them to mod ANY theater the way they wish, just like you seem to like to do, yet you don’t have to ask or get clearance from anyone because all of the sudden you claim it is yours to do as you please…because, well you created the Balkans Dev team, just like the chaps over on Israel!!! Make a label, declare a team, and damn, you can claim ownership! LMAO!
You don’t own it, you are not the original creator of the theater and NO ONE needs to ask you permission to do anything with it, even if they want to release their version!
Get your facts straight DUDE!!! :nosep::roll::roll:
It’s is sort of sad that there are individuals here that seem to believe they possess the ownership of “things” that they are only mocking, YET, they can’t create something on their own, a theater from beginning to end…they have to take other peoples work and claim it is theirs, with a few changes here and there!! CASE CLOSED!!!
C9
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@Cloud:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I didn’t say a single thing about you modding any theater, just like I didn’t say anything about any one else modding any theater!!
READ WHAT I POSTED!!
EXACTLY WHAT YOU STATED EARLIER!
My issue with you and a few others here, is, you believe for some reason you OWN the Balkans theater or others, other theaters, and that people need to come through YOU or them and get clearance from YOU or THEM to get permission for them to mod ANY theater the way they wish, just like you seem to like to do, yet you don’t have to ask or get clearance from anyone because all of the sudden you claim it is yours to do as you please…because, well you created the Balkans Dev team, just like the chaps over on Israel!!! Make a label, declare a team, and damn, you can claim ownership! LMAO!
You don’t own it, you are not the original creator of the theater and NO ONE needs to ask you permission to do anything with it, even if they want to release their version!
Get your facts straight DUDE!!! :nosep::roll::roll:
It’s is sort of sad that there are individuals here that seem to believe they possess the ownership of “things” that they are only mocking, YET, they can’t create something on their own, a theater from beginning to end…they have to take other peoples work and claim it is theirs, with a few changes here and there!! CASE CLOSED!!!
C9
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I got ya. What Cougar meant is that ALL THE CHANGES goes through DEV team … so , AS he’s representative , you make the changes , present to him and ALL IS KOOL … pass/no pass - no problem
HELL YES, THERE ARE individuals who thinks “IS A MUST” // and , from GENERAL standpoint , no ****s are given , whatever the case … you want it OK, go through procedure … IF YOU WON’T , go pack ur shit and be gone
If “you” read this … IT’s NOT THE SUN REVOLVING THE EARTH JUST BECAUSE YOU STAND ON IT … REMEMBER THATBut, the point is there should be at least a try for civilized approach for a peace and happy community … SO PLEASE NO MORE SPOILED BRATS
Cheers :panda:
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C9 what is this for some shit to start here, are you total du… or what.
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You guys would please stop this and revert back to being constructive rather than just going at each other’s throat?
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Thank you, Cougar!!!
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@Cloud:
WRONG!!! :roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:
C9
C… It’s not wrong. It is OK. , you just got it wrong. What’s been said it not like it is.
Please look this way .
There’s absolutely nothing that stops PPL do their own work based on original “abandonware” Balkans. NO one is claiming any rights on theater here. (maybe they did sound alike, but it is not like that)
So, no modding is forbidden. - and nobody take any rights on the original theater , even it is changed from top to bottom
That that ppl don’t do theaters from ground zero anymore … well, … It is not a real problem , is it? … BUT noone is claiming any rights!. It is free to all. Heck, you can even release it as a mod , or a release…
But that “original” Balkans is kinda MP “official” and where’s that word - there’s that stupid race from all the Falcon ages.
Take your sweet time and remember the FalconEpopee , how many moments like that in through all of the history
So please don’t be angered on Cougar, he’s doing best he can. - If he wants the job of maintaining changes what ppl do to include in theater , kinda official , but there HAS to be someone, right? Why not him?
He’s doing it through all ups and downs, from the time I know. So let him do it. That that ppl attacking him its not right and don’t hold any grounds, from my standpoint he is a hero, maybe a little firmer hand, but is ok.Cheers, no more fighting
RedDog, cheers mate, I just couldn’t have Cougar been falsely accused on exactly NOthing, ban me if you must…
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RedDog, cheers mate, I just couldn’t have Cougar been falsely accused on exactly NOthing, ban me if you must…
Couldn’t have said it better mate.
As long as things cool down, I’m happy mo(o)d -
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Not sure our European and other nations will get the rocker bit ……,But i did Malc :headb: for anyone thinking What??
Watch quadrophenia
On another note, i am very grateful for the theatres, really enjoying Balkans & Kuwait, i remember years ago having to pay for the pleasure. Pmc??? Not sure, but thank you everyone that as contributed for all mods & theatres over the years, i am a 100% taker ,i have no idea where to even start with technical stuff so thanks again, and i dont like reading the posts were you guys fall out, this sim is based around community effort long may it continue. HC -
hi guys when i want to extract files to install janhans models it gets stuck what the issue ?
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As soon as Jan Has comes out with the Israeli F-16 model, I’m going to build a installer for Israel
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Thanks for the theater Cougar!
I noticed some issues:
- Ben Gurion is doubled
- ATC handover from ground to tower is messed up at Eilat
- Perhaps already present in previous releases but the ground elevation just north of Ovda is dangerously high when approaching from the north to land (and vice versa on take off).
- Already present in previous versions: the short runway of ‘standard’ double runway airbases is too short to make a safe take off with max loaded Sufa. Perhaps the runways can be extended for Sufa-based airbases in a future release.
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Hey Cougar,
Thanks for your hard work bud. Just a quick note that we’ll be using this theater for our next (public multiplayer) campaign at UOAF!
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Hi Cougar, thank you for this conversion.
Sorry if it was asked before, I installed the theatre, and I don’t see any training mission in it. Is they deliberately missing?