Hard to refuel ?
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For all of us crying cause the tanker turn to hard and AAR being too difficult in BMS:
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Yeah, but how do get the KC-135 in BMS to do a barrel roll?
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@TGW:
No Problem!
Except that the KC-135 is not based on the 707.
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Pfft: AAR is easy, see my youtube video and GOTS.
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Except that the KC-135 is not based on the 707.
Au contraire mon frere, quoting wiki . . .
The Boeing 367-80, known simply as the Dash 80 (aircraft in YT link I posted earlier), is an American quadjet prototype aircraft built by Boeing to demonstrate the advantages of jet propulsion for commercial aviation. It served as base for the design of the KC-135 tanker and primarily the 707 airliner.
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@TGW:
Au contraire mon frere, quoting wiki . . .
The Boeing 367-80, known simply as the Dash 80 (aircraft in YT link I posted earlier), is an American quadjet prototype aircraft built by Boeing to demonstrate the advantages of jet propulsion for commercial aviation. It served as base for the design of the KC-135 tanker and primarily the 707 airliner.
Read the sentence you quoted. The Dash-80 served as the base for both aircraft, not the 707. The KC-135 fuselage can actually fit inside the 707.
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Pumpyhead is entirely correct. The KC-135A actually pre-dates the 707, it flew 2 years before the first 707 ever took to the skies.
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Except that the KC-135 is not based on the 707.
No, but it was based on the Dash-80 model, which DID do a barrel roll . . . .
So . . . Can a KC-135 do a barrel roll? Unequivocally, YES! . . .
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@TGW:
No, but it was based on the Dash-80 model, which DID do a barrel roll . . . .
So . . . Can a KC-135 do a barrel roll? Unequivocally, YES! . . .
Hehe,
Perhaps, but can it recover from that roll?
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There is few doubts that a KC-135 can perform a barrel roll and recover from it (if a Dash-80 did it…), but may be not at a gross weight required to refuel…
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For all of us crying cause the tanker turn to hard and AAR being too difficult in BMS:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1219373979539996674I’ll think that problem is not difficulty of aar. Real problem is that it is not fun and it’s more like pain in ass to do.
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@M79:
I’ll think that problem is not difficulty of aar. Real problem is that it is not fun and it’s more like pain in ass to do.
I really enjoy AAR. At least 50% of the missions I fly are with AAR
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HAHA, This dude needs more practice
I’d be willing to bet that’s exactly what’s going on here - more practice. The multiple attempts to connect are probably intentional. After all, why fly a sortie and refuel once when you can take the opportunity to do it three of four times? Fly to a recognised contact position then back out to do it again? Unfortunately, without comms or any idea what was briefed, we’ll never know for sure. Maybe the HAF are full of pilots who are shit at AAR!
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I just wanted to note that Dash-80 didn’t do a barrel roll, like the guys in the OP video did. What it did, at least in the video I’ve seen, was a simple airleron roll. Those are two different maneuvers.
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I’d be willing to bet that’s exactly what’s going on here - more practice. The multiple attempts to connect are probably intentional. After all, why fly a sortie and refuel once when you can take the opportunity to do it three of four times? Fly to a recognised contact position then back out to do it again? Unfortunately, without comms or any idea what was briefed, we’ll never know for sure. Maybe the HAF are full of pilots who are shit at AAR!
Maybe this dude is a newbie, it’s his first AAR training mission
HAF has no tankers, it must coordinate NATO tankers for AAR training.