Balkans Theater for Falcon BMS 4.34.3
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Thank you,it was a really good news !
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Balkans for Falcon BMS 4.34 Update 3 is now posted in the first post of this thread
With a changelog this small, is it really necessary for us to download the entire 1.8Gb of theater again? Any chance you guys can push out a patch with only the new / adjusted files?
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I can put out a patch. I’ll do it later today.
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I can put out a patch. I’ll do it later today.
Wanted to say the same Cougar. Just put patches out. For all of them if possible please? The ones u do i mean
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I posted a patch on the first post for those that do not want to download the full installer.
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I posted a patch on the first post for those that do not want to download the full installer.
Thank you, Cougar.
I don’t know the first thing about theater creation, so I don’t know how hard this is, but considering the MASSIVE difference in size (576KB instead of 1.8Gb), and the extraction-method removing all need to backup anything from your Balkans-folder now, I would very much appreciate if this could become the standard way of distributing updates in the future. Saves a lot on bandwidth, time and effort, and it’s more idiot-proof.
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Two questions regarding the theater:
1. Tuzla AB in B&H: why is it called now Dubrave?
Isn’t Dubrave a village in the NW of B&H?
In the theater documents it’s called Tuzla as well.2. I noticed that there are more airports in the theater than listed in the documentation attached in the install directory.
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Yo!.. Well , some of the names are historical , some are changed to present names.
But, most Balkans airports were named by the capitals in the region even that wasn’t their real name… so, yes they are also called by the name of capital, for easier navigation, but their real name is mostly by the some village/town/city closer to airport itself.
Eg, for Dubrovnik , its name is Ćilipi [Chilipi] , by the name of village nearby., is also historical and present name… but in previous theater editions was simply “Dubrovnik”…
Now… I’m not sure for ICAO designations , but that is easy to check.Airport Zagreb was named “Pleso” at the time (historical) , it was changed to “Franjo Tuđman” [Frani: o Tudzhman] not so long ago , few years ago.
So, … what’s better, I don’t know , to keep historical names or present ones … since we’re re-creating state around end of nineties (1999) , so why we are using present names… seems like global mix of now and then …
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Yo!.. Well , some of the names are historical , some are changed to present names.
But, most Balkans airports were named by the capitals in the region even that wasn’t their real name… so, yes they are also called by the name of capital, for easier navigation, but their real name is mostly by the some village/town/city closer to airport itself.
Eg, for Dubrovnik , its name is Ćilipi [Chilipi] , by the name of village nearby., is also historical and present name… but in previous theater editions was simply “Dubrovnik”…
Now… I’m not sure for ICAO designations , but that is easy to check.Airport Zagreb was named “Pleso” at the time (historical) , it was changed to “Franjo Tuđman” [Frani: o Tudzhman] not so long ago , few years ago.
So, … what’s better, I don’t know , to keep historical names or present ones … since we’re re-creating state around end of nineties (1999) , so why we are using present names… seems like global mix of now and then …
There’s still place for improvements :yo:You are correct.
More than that, it makes sense and happens with more than one airport in the theater and the different names used are indeed historical ones or after nearby cities or villages.
It might also be that Tuzla airport was once called Dubrave.
That I do not know.
What I do know is I’m gathering all information regarding the theater, cross checking and validating and in that process said airport is called “Tuzla” in the official latest update NavAid doc.
Since Cougar Name it Tuzla, the airport is called Tuzla and the tacan station is TUZ as well…I was surprised to find the name Dubrave in the actual theater in sim map.
That is the only discrepancy I found between the official published data and the actual sim data (regarding airport names).So…in short…whether it’s a typo, a leftover from previous versions or done in purpose…either the sim is wrong or the theater’s nav aids doc is wrong.
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A note to theater developer:
Gorazde strip.
Its geographical location in the BMS theater map in the sim is well within Montenegro.
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once again, I was in front of the same situation : tacan is not provided
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Balkans theater for 4.34.3 is compatible with 4.34.4
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Hi,
Where can i get an excel sheet, or any other text table with all the campaign airfields.
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I have that list
But you can access the data through mission commander.
Which lat long do you need the flat BMS coordinates or real world coordinates.
Have a look into the Tacview thread I just posted an add-on with all Balkan Airbases, Runways, and ILS
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I want to add support for other theater to my plugin.
I currently have the ones for all Israeli airfield which I copied from the nav data pdf.
I guess these are the real world coordinates.
Perhaps one day you’ll show me how to read ACMI data and MC data but until then i’ll settle for text file.
My plugin will soon be ready it’s next stage which is getting some real time data from the game, not just flight data -
What are you using lat long for that’s essential to know as the formulas to calculate are different and result into different values
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I get the flight lat/long from the shared memory and use it to calculated distances to other airports
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I get the flight lat/long from the shared memory and use it to calculated distances to other airports
Something like that sufficient enough. The lat long is the one of the objective. (Center of Tile) the Runways itself are offset to that position sometimes less sometimes more. So As I don’t know from where to where you gonna calculate don’t know which data to provide.
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The skins of the training missiles are messed up in my install of Balkans. Anyone else has this? It’s a clean Balkans install with the Janhas pack for Balkans applied.