BMS 4.34 Documents correction report
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\Docs\05 Other Documentation\Database*F-16s TexSet.xls*
In the first “Legend” tab, Line #27 and Line #28, I think the “Aircraft Variant” and the “Cockpit Name” are inverted.
F-16AM RNoAF and RNIAF should be on the same line for Variant and Cockpit name…Variants Cockpit name Aircraft parent # Wing parent # Texture Sets
F-16AM RNlAF F-16AM RNoAF 1755 1752 1
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Training Manual, page 79:
“You can proceed low level to STPT 14 or further, or you can move to the LGB Training Mission that will start at IP1 (STPT 6) of this flight.”
I thought this meant that I could start with the TFR training mission 8 and finish with LGB training mission 11, just as I can do missions 1-3 together. However, LGB training is far west of the TFR stuff and the flight plans don’t match… Is this sentence left over from an earlier version?
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Falcon BMS Manual Chapter 3.2.4 “Launching BMS 4.34”:
First select either the 32 bit or 64 bit version in the top right corner. The selected one will appear in green.
There is no 32 Bit version since BMS 4.34 anymore.
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Training Manual Pg. 157:
“When the caret is at 3 o’clock, aspect is 90°R.”
Wouldn’t it be 90°L? Or am I understanding aspect incorrectly?
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Training Manual Pg. 157:
“When the caret is at 3 o’clock, aspect is 90°R.”
Wouldn’t it be 90°L? Or am I understanding aspect incorrectly?
When the caret is at 3 o’clock, aspect is 90°R because ownship would be somewhere on the line separating the upper right quadrant and lower right quadrant.
Here’s a picture of Aspect Angle 80°L. Notice the TLL points to the right and the FCR shows the target heading westerly, showing his left side to you. Aspect is your position on the bandit’s left or right side.
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@jc1:
When the caret is at 3 o’clock, aspect is 90°R because ownship would be somewhere on the line separating the upper right quadrant and lower right quadrant.
Here’s a picture of Aspect Angle 80°L. Notice the TLL points to the right and the FCR shows the target heading westerly, showing his left side to you. Aspect is your position on the bandit’s left or right side.
I must be really dense…but it looks to me that your image contradicts your first statement. In your image, the caret is between 3 and 4 o’clock and the aspect is 80L. So if the caret is at 3 o’clock, wouldn’t that indicate 90L? Ownship would still be on the left quadrant of the bandit.
My understanding has always been that the caret triangle points through the circle in the direction the bandit’s nose is pointing if you look directly at him. Therefore at 90L, the caret is at 3 o’clock pointing to the left (through the circle) and the bandit is moving right to left across your field of vision exposing his left side. What the manual states is that 90R is with the caret at 3 o’clock. But that would mean the bandit is heading the opposite direction. Here’s a crude MS paint image:
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Training Manual Pg. 157:
“When the caret is at 3 o’clock, aspect is 90°R.”
Wouldn’t it be 90°L? Or am I understanding aspect incorrectly?
@jc1:
When the caret is at 3 o’clock, aspect is 90°R because ownship would be somewhere on the line separating the upper right quadrant and lower right quadrant.
Here’s a picture of Aspect Angle 80°L. Notice the TLL points to the right and the FCR shows the target heading westerly, showing his left side to you. Aspect is your position on the bandit’s left or right side.
I must be really dense…but it looks to me that your image contradicts your first statement. In your image, the caret is between 3 and 4 o’clock and the aspect is 80L. So if the caret is at 3 o’clock, wouldn’t that indicate 90L? Ownship would still be on the left quadrant of the bandit.
My understanding has always been that the caret triangle points through the circle in the direction the bandit’s nose is pointing if you look directly at him. Therefore at 90L, the caret is at 3 o’clock pointing to the left (through the circle) and the bandit is moving right to left across your field of vision exposing his left side. What the manual states is that 90R is with the caret at 3 o’clock. But that would mean the bandit is heading the opposite direction. Here’s a crude MS paint image:
The image on p156 is not the HUD with a HUD caret. It’s the God’s-eye view. At 3 o’clock the bandit would be on the right aspect. I showed the BMS cockpit with the HUD caret at 3-4 o’oclock to show that the caret could be on the right but indicate left aspect. Look at my image’s FCR MFD. Under CRM is 8L indicating 80 degrees left aspect.
More insight is in 34-1-1 p47, section 1.4.4.1.7.1
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@jc1:
The image on p156 is not the HUD with a HUD caret. It’s the God’s-eye view. At 3 o’clock the bandit would be on the right aspect. I showed the BMS cockpit with the HUD caret at 3-4 o’oclock to show that the caret could be on the right but indicate left aspect. Look at my image’s FCR MFD. Under CRM is 8L indicating 80 degrees left aspect.
More insight is in 34-1-1 p47, section 1.4.4.1.7.1
I’m not questioning p156…the God’s-eye view. That part I get. I’m questioning p157 where it shows the radar scope on the left and HUD indications for SRM employment on the right.
“On the HUD, there is a caret on the SRM reticle (representing the missile seeker field of view) identified with the red arrow above. The caret moves around the circle to indicate aspect. When the caret is at 12 o’clock, aspect is 180° (like in this scenario). When the caret is at 3 o’clock, aspect is 90°R. When the caret is at 6 o’clock, aspect is 0°.”
How can the bolded text be correct? Your cockpit image clearly shows the caret near 3 o’clock with a L aspect on the radar scope, not R as the manual says it should be. If the caret is anywhere on the right side (1 o’clock through 5 o’clock) of the HUD reticle, it’s an L aspect, is it not?
EDIT: I’m only saying there is one typo and that it should say “When the caret is at 3 o’clock, aspect is 90°L”
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one of the image wasn’t updated because at the time the manual was written there was a bug, bug that was found thanks to that manual chapter
Unfortunately there was no time to update the picture once it was corrected. I think it’s stated in the paragraph somewhereAs far as I remember, the text is correct, the image wasn’t because it dated pre bug.
It’s not the single occurence and running after these minutes details - which are many - inevitably made us forget a few of these -
I’m not saying any of the images are incorrect in the section on Aspect Angle. I’m saying the text is incorrect in the training manual on p157 where it describes the solid triangle (caret) that moves around the circle (reticle) on the HUD. The manual states that when the caret is at 3 o’clock on the reticle, it’s a 90°R aspect. I’m saying that is factually incorrect. If the triangle is at three o’clock on the circle, the bandit is moving right to left and therefore the aspect is 90°L.
Here is an in-sim screenshot as proof of what I’m saying:
I’m not criticizing by any means at all. You all do a wonderful job with the tremendous amount of study-level documentation, I’m just pointing it out because this section tripped me up a little. I’m back to BMS after a couple years away and spotted that line and thought…“this can’t be right.”
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I’m not questioning p156…the God’s-eye view. That part I get. I’m questioning p157 where it shows the radar scope on the left and HUD indications for SRM employment on the right.
“On the HUD, there is a caret on the SRM reticle (representing the missile seeker field of view) identified with the red arrow above. The caret moves around the circle to indicate aspect. When the caret is at 12 o’clock, aspect is 180° (like in this scenario). When the caret is at 3 o’clock, aspect is 90°R. When the caret is at 6 o’clock, aspect is 0°.”
How can the bolded text be correct? Your cockpit image clearly shows the caret near 3 o’clock with a L aspect on the radar scope, not R as the manual says it should be. If the caret is anywhere on the right side (1 o’clock through 5 o’clock) of the HUD reticle, it’s an L aspect, is it not?
EDIT: I’m only saying there is one typo and that it should say “When the caret is at 3 o’clock, aspect is 90°L”
I see what you’re saying. I agree that when the caret is on the HUD right side reticle it is left aspect and when the caret is on the HUD left side reticle it is right aspect.
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https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?38947-Autopilot&p=537188#post537188
training manual intro Ui pictures
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Dash-34 need a chapter about plain GBU. with difference of procedure for PII and PIII and need to explain what is a PII and a PIII
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BMS Training Manual
Mission 15: Inertially Aided Munitions
page 132 under GOAL:
SA-4 north of target.
The problem is that the in-game BMS TR_BMS_15_IAM mission does not show the SA-4 on the map nor does it show its threat circle.
Neither is it on the HSD. I clearly forgot about it after reading the documentation.
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So?
The sa-4 is mobile, that’s the reason why it doesn’t show on the map, and that there’s no PPT for it.
Secondly it’s not part of the mission goal, which is the column, but it’s listed as airdefense in the area.So I don’t see any problem with it - and certainly no error in the docs
the idea whit this was the same as the mig29 present in that TRN in the 4.33 version: teach the pilot not to loiter over the target area. do your job and get the hell out of Dodge.
in 4.33 if you stayed too long over the target area you’d be jumped by a flight of mig-29 but many complained that this was a training mission and it shouldn’t happen.
Of course if you did your job quickly and efficiently the migs would never catch you and back then I though it was a valuable lesson too (one I obviously couldn’t tell in the docs because that would have spoiled the effect)Listening to these complaints I removed the migs for the 4.34 revision, but a moving Sa-4 coming slowly into WEZ for these loitering puppies was my way of telling you guys, beware loitering over a target is never a good idea and if you do, stay on your toes, after all it’s a combat sim
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@Red:
So?
The sa-4 is mobile, that’s the reason why it doesn’t show on the map, and that there’s no PPT for it.
Secondly it’s not part of the mission goal, which is the column, but it’s listed as airdefense in the area.So I don’t see any problem with it - and certainly no error in the docs
the idea whit this was the same as the mig29 present in that TRN in the 4.33 version: teach the pilot not to loiter over the target area. do your job and get the hell out of Dodge.
in 4.33 if you stayed too long over the target area you’d be jumped by a flight of mig-29 but many complained that this was a training mission and it shouldn’t happen.
Of course if you did your job quickly and efficiently the migs would never catch you and back then I though it was a valuable lesson too (one I obviously couldn’t tell in the docs because that would have spoiled the effect)Listening to these complaints I removed the migs for the 4.34 revision, but a moving Sa-4 coming slowly into WEZ for these loitering puppies was my way of telling you guys, beware loitering over a target is never a good idea and if you do, stay on your toes, after all it’s a combat sim
Magnificent Red Dog! I expected that mobile air defenses would be shown on the map and HSD when I got used to practicing on Training Mission #12: AGM-88 HARMS which showed the mobile SA-4 and SA-6 on the map and HSD, but now I realize that Training Mission #12 was intended to teach the HTS avionics. I now see there is no problem with your docs in Training #15: Inertially Aided Munitions which stated that SA-4 was part of the air defense; this was a great way to demonstrate that the pilot should pay attention to the briefing. :shock: That SA-4 search radar appeared on my RWR as “L” and I wondered what that was. Then I found your documentation in the Dash-1 p42 section 1.2.3.5 ALR-56 RWR. The “L” is the symbol on the RWR of the Long Track search radar for SA-4. Your documentation helps make BMS Falcon great. Thanks again, RD.
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thanks mate, appreciate the comment.
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Don’t know if this has been reported already…very minor:
In KTO Charts -> North Korea, the Sondok_airport.png file contains a plate image that is labeled HYON-NI.
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using the random fault, i encoutered the next fault on my last mission :
The AutoPilot stoped working, switches was non operational.
Checked it later at the TO-BMS1F-16CM-1.pdf :
Maybe needs to be updated.
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Minor typo
BMS Technical Manual (Change 0)
13.8 Other Options, page 162
g_nKnobAccelerationDelta
Use SimHsiCourseInc, SimHsiCourseInc, SimHsiCourseDec, SimHsiHeadingInc, SimHsiHeadingDec SimAltPressInc, SimAltPressDec, SimHsiCourseDec, SimHsiHeadingInc, SimHsiHeadingDec, SimAltPressInc SimAltPressDec “normal’ callbacks for acceleration to work, not the By1 callbacks.
SimHsiCourseInc and SimHsiCourseDec both mentioned twice and out of order.
Not the most important change but might as well mention it
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