New ECM model
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First of all, congratulations to the BMS dev team! You guys are awesome!
Folks… i know is a silly question but… about the new ECM modes, there are FWD and AFT antennas, in the XMIT 1, the FWD antenna is inhibited.
My question is…
Is that mean that threats in front of my aircraft are NOT going to be jammed?Greetings from Brazil!
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as I understand the sources will be blocked as soon as they receive the source that matches the program you have selected, the 5 keys
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@VDK said in New ECM model:
Is that mean that threats in front of my aircraft are
if select XMT2 or 3, your radar capability will be jammed and degraded too.
So XMT1 has no impact on your radar performance but i think its ECM capability toward 12 o clock is weak.
Hosile AC in your head-on position could easily burn through your ECM protection. -
If your FCR is active and ECM is in XMIT 1, your forward ECM antenna will NOT transmit at all. So yes, in the above configuration there is NO jamming of threats in your front quarters. Threats in your rear quarters will be jammed.
If you go to XMIT 2 or turn off your FCR in XMIT 1, also the forward ECM antenna will transmit.
If in XMIT 2, FCR active an you jam a target in front quarters, your own radar performance (detection range) will decrease due to jamming effects on your own radar.
cheers
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@Magic49th said in New ECM model:
turn off your FCR in XMIT 1, also the forward ECM antenna will transmit.
Wow! This is new for me! Are you sure?
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Sorry to be rude but a manual does exist to explain this…
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@MaxWaldorf said in New ECM model:
Sorry to be rude but a manual does exist to explain this…
I did not find these informations in the manual
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@VDK
TO 1F-16CMAM-34-1-1 BMS page 130 -
@Rouge1512 this:
" turn off your FCR in XMIT 1, also the forward ECM antenna will transmit."
Is not in the manual.
The page that you refer (i read it yesterday) is saying about FWD and AFT antenna. My doubt is, if the FWD antenna is not transmiting, then the 12 o’clock position it’s going to be “unjammed”. (the guys already solved the question)
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@VDK Can probably test it easy enough in the HARM training TE.
But not sure I would ever want to rely on that… for situations where I’m flying directly toward someone who is trying to shoot at me. I’ll go ahead and flick the switch to ‘2’.
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thanks for the thread. was wondering about this, myself. IMO the manual could stand to go into more detail. XMIT 1 is stated that it turns off the forward antenna. however, i think it should explain in more detail the ramifications of this. using previous knowledge, i inferred the jamming is weak/nonexistent(?) in the forward arc. i think this information needs to be plainly stated. it would help to also quantify jamming strength between XMIT 1 and 2.
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@airtex2019 yes my friend! But remember that the jammer will only degrade your radar/TFR if you are jamming a specific band. If you are jamming a diferent band than your radar/TFR, they will continue to operate. (At least, that is what manual say…)
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@FreqiMANN that’s why i made the post my friend!
About the transmition power, i think it’s the same in XMIT 1 and 2, is only the antenna (and the arc) that is affected (as ours friends say above)Greetings from Brazil! Happy new year to you all!
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@VDK Maybe some kind and knowledgeable person like Tripp (is he still around?) would make a video on the new ECM?
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@FreqiMANN said in New ECM model:
thanks for the thread. was wondering about this, myself. IMO the manual could stand to go into more detail. XMIT 1 is stated that it turns off the forward antenna. however, i think it should explain in more detail the ramifications of this. using previous knowledge, i inferred the jamming is weak/nonexistent(?) in the forward arc. i think this information needs to be plainly stated. it would help to also quantify jamming strength between XMIT 1 and 2.
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I flew toward SA2 with only program 1 selected & XMIT 2 and Jamer enabled but SA-2 still shot me as I flew head on toward it (just for test). Was it my elevation? (20,000ft)
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@Alfred for sure it was program 3. Or, to be more precise, its absence. Fan Song uses G band.
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@Foxtrot701 said in New ECM model:
@Alfred for sure it was program 3. Or, to be more precise, its absence. Fan Song uses G band.
you mean program 3 should have selected?
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@Alfred absolutely. You can see which programs are associated with specific bands in the threat guide.