4.37 killed the AMRAAM
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Other test to perform
please add this
set g_sPriorityFixes "all-PFIX_AHR_GUIDANCE"
in your Falcon BMS User file and test
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and finally if all the above tests have failed
try this one
https://mega.nz/file/mx9RFB4S#3WASFENF2p5WMmbcLDUSXHoOQAoQCM5y10lCA3PUJXs
BTW you need to put those missiles files in both balkans and Korea misdata folders
Don’t forget to back up
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are you flying all VR or pancakes ?
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@Mav-jp said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
are you flying all VR or pancakes ?
Those, who had these issues, fly without VR.
The one with VR (that is me) had not issues but good kills.
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@Razor161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Mav-jp said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
are you flying all VR or pancakes ?
Those, who had these issues, fly without VR.
The one with VR (that is me) had not issues but good kills.
You’re not trying to tell us, that VR is now somehow mandatory in BVR?i’m trying to narrow down any possibilities.
-VR ruled out, good
-something very odd, we have hundreds of AIM120 launched every day and none of them are reporting this kind od wacko final guidance. i dont understand the relationships between you guys, i’m trying to find a pattern, are you flying all from the same VFW ? on the same server ?
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@Mav-jp said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Razor161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Mav-jp said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
are you flying all VR or pancakes ?
Those, who had these issues, fly without VR.
The one with VR (that is me) had not issues but good kills.
You’re not trying to tell us, that VR is now somehow mandatory in BVR?i’m trying to narrow down any possibilities.
-VR ruled out, good
-something very odd, we have hundreds of AIM120 launched every day and none of them are reporting this kind od wacko final guidance. i dont understand the relationships between you guys, i’m trying to find a pattern, are you flying all from the same VFW ? on the same server ?
@Bloodhound161 @EuKeule @Prot and myself are from the same VFW and yes, we use the same server. As far as I know it is the same kind of server as @Micro_440th uses to host BMS on Falcon Events.
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@Razor161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Mav-jp said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Razor161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Mav-jp said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
are you flying all VR or pancakes ?
Those, who had these issues, fly without VR.
The one with VR (that is me) had not issues but good kills.
You’re not trying to tell us, that VR is now somehow mandatory in BVR?i’m trying to narrow down any possibilities.
-VR ruled out, good
-something very odd, we have hundreds of AIM120 launched every day and none of them are reporting this kind od wacko final guidance. i dont understand the relationships between you guys, i’m trying to find a pattern, are you flying all from the same VFW ? on the same server ?
@Bloodhound161 @EuKeule @Prot and myself are from the same VFW and yes, we use the same server. As far as I know it is the same kind of server as @Micro_440th uses to host BMS on Falcon Events.
Just an intuition… CS connections?
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@LorikEolmin said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Razor161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Mav-jp said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Razor161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Mav-jp said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
are you flying all VR or pancakes ?
Those, who had these issues, fly without VR.
The one with VR (that is me) had not issues but good kills.
You’re not trying to tell us, that VR is now somehow mandatory in BVR?i’m trying to narrow down any possibilities.
-VR ruled out, good
-something very odd, we have hundreds of AIM120 launched every day and none of them are reporting this kind od wacko final guidance. i dont understand the relationships between you guys, i’m trying to find a pattern, are you flying all from the same VFW ? on the same server ?
@Bloodhound161 @EuKeule @Prot and myself are from the same VFW and yes, we use the same server. As far as I know it is the same kind of server as @Micro_440th uses to host BMS on Falcon Events.
Just an intuition… CS connections?
Well blood good had the guidance bug in SP , so…
Let’s wait for the tests I asked
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BTW you need to put those missiles files in both balkans and Korea misdata folders
Don’t forget to back up
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@Seifer said:
Except, perhaps, the size of your panties (although I suspect Aragorn will find it useful).
I already KNOW the size of his panties.
FFS - will you people stop underestimating me.
I have been stalking him for WEEKS.
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@Aragorn said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Seifer said:
Except, perhaps, the size of your panties (although I suspect Aragorn will find it useful).
I already KNOW the size of his panties.
FFS - will you people stop underestimating me.
I have been stalking him for WEEKS.
Cause or consequence?
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This is an ACMI of a TvT running on Falcon online as we speak
https://mega.nz/file/ELhC3D7S#rYmysDa1Vqaf4xAF7sQV9Y_yNOQNy4B2zcFdVAnydu0
out of the 45 missiles AHR type fired in a massive MP environment, none of them have shown any problem of guidances like the ones you guys have in your ACMI
i freaking dont understand it drives me mad
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I will make the tests you recommended.
Standby… (weekend is normally family time, I’ve to negotiate with my president…) -
Tested with just the “if all above tests failed” new Misdata files only. All ok. No overclocking.
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@EuKeule said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
I will make the tests you recommended.
Standby… (weekend is normally family time, I’ve to negotiate with my president…)External view?
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@WPNS24 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
Ok, now in all 100% seriousness with a reply of yes or no. I want you to say yes the slammer should hit or no the slammer should miss to this engagement.
I am clearing a Mig-23 off my wingman that is at 12k alt. I am at 25k and in a dive at .65 Mach and increasing, the Mig is at .71. The distance is 10.63 nm and I launch my slammer.
The Mig goes immediately cold and increases speed maxed out at mach 1.13, my speed has increased to .94 mach. Time elapsed is 57 seconds and slammer dies.
Mig knows missile defeated and turns hot toward me 12 miles in trail at 18k alt and .92 Mach. Mig is at 4000 ft and 1.13 Mach, turns hot at 4.4 G and loses 2 kts airspeed. Points its nose at me and sees another slammer launched again pulls a hard right at 9.9 G’s (losing 15 kts airpseed) and accelerates to 1.11 Mach in seconds again. At the point it turned cold again, my missile was 4.39 nm from the Mig and couldn’t catch it. The Mig just sprinted away until it finally turned back in AGAIN after the 2nd slammer missed and at this point I was only 6 miles away this time and finally killed it with a 3rd slammer…
Do any of those scenarios sound reasonable? Yes or NoLooks like the problem isn’t with Amraam.
The problem in the flight characteristics of some AI bot aircraft, allowing them to abruptly run away from any missile that was launched from afar. -
@LorikEolmin said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
Tested with just the “if all above tests failed” new Misdata files only. All ok. No overclocking.
i’m confused , you were able to replicate the original bug (weird trajectories - avoidance at last second ) on the first place ???
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@SpbGoro said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@WPNS24 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
Ok, now in all 100% seriousness with a reply of yes or no. I want you to say yes the slammer should hit or no the slammer should miss to this engagement.
I am clearing a Mig-23 off my wingman that is at 12k alt. I am at 25k and in a dive at .65 Mach and increasing, the Mig is at .71. The distance is 10.63 nm and I launch my slammer.
The Mig goes immediately cold and increases speed maxed out at mach 1.13, my speed has increased to .94 mach. Time elapsed is 57 seconds and slammer dies.
Mig knows missile defeated and turns hot toward me 12 miles in trail at 18k alt and .92 Mach. Mig is at 4000 ft and 1.13 Mach, turns hot at 4.4 G and loses 2 kts airspeed. Points its nose at me and sees another slammer launched again pulls a hard right at 9.9 G’s (losing 15 kts airpseed) and accelerates to 1.11 Mach in seconds again. At the point it turned cold again, my missile was 4.39 nm from the Mig and couldn’t catch it. The Mig just sprinted away until it finally turned back in AGAIN after the 2nd slammer missed and at this point I was only 6 miles away this time and finally killed it with a 3rd slammer…
Do any of those scenarios sound reasonable? Yes or NoLooks like the problem isn’t with Amraam.
The problem in the flight characteristics of some AI bot aircraft, allowing them to abruptly run away from any missile that was launched from afar.when you suddendly see a <M> on your RWR, do you turn max G and full AB or do you continue flying peacefully ?
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@Mav-jp
I aggree with you that so far no other flight was affected by this issue. Not in dogfight module nor in other TE’s or campaign flights.
It looks like the problem only occurs in this TE with Mustang6 flight. As @Prot explained he did stuff with MC to clone flights and so on.Could you check if anything in the TE is ‘broken’ or at least not as it should data-wise?
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@Mav-jp Of course, i would have run away if he saw “M” on the RVR But running away and maneuvering sharply, i would have lost a significant part of his energy during maneuvers. But the MiG-23 cannot see the “M” on the RVR
In the situation described above from WPNS24, the MiG-23 almost does not lose energy while maneuvering and accelerates very quickly.
If I understood his message correctly, of course.