Why choose GBU-10/24/27 & not GBU-31 for static targets ?
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@regev and thats a question for inteligence and headquters. You are the pilot, you dont decide what kind of payload you gonna use. But yes, you have a good point! Honnestly, when you are going to drop bombs, you would like to be 150% sure there is no other bandit in the air. When you have a bogie, run. If you cant run fast enought, jettison stores. If you need to bomb in limited time (Balistic nuclear silo) you need to have cover in every possible line. So, its not clever to drop bombs with enemy in the air
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@regev anyway, when Im going to attack target which is heavily defended, im going to use GBU39, 23 000ft, 380knts and then I have time to react even on AA threats
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@GhostDog-0 said in Why choose GBU-10/24/27 & not GBU-31 for static targets ?:
@regev in this case, the GBU is only a guidance kit on MK84 or BLU109/117b . Its able to be set on munnition from 230 to 934kg, GBU31 has 943kg and its used on surfrace, GBU 24 has 910kg but was made like a penetrator. Im definitely not telling the GBU31 is weak. But in real life, its made for its own specific job. You have a building as a target- GBU31 will destroy this building and its surroundings in very first moment of impact, GBU24 penetrates whole building till its stops in garages and then explode- no surrondings damage but you never built metro in this location again… i thing so
And yes , you can throw two bombs for good effect, but prize of one GBU24 is for 55.600 dolars and one GBU31 is for 25.000. So, would you like to use two bombs not designated for penetrating or one bomb with the same prize which is made for?Both GBU-24 and GBU-31 exist in normal impact (Mk84) and penetration (BLU-109/117). That’s why you have GBU-31V1 and V3 and GBU-24A and B.
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@Scorpion82 i have found about 20 webs with different info to many modifications
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@regev said in Why choose GBU-10/24/27 & not GBU-31 for static targets ?:
The 10/24/27 force you to stay over the target while you are vulnerable to enemy fighters\AAA\AD, while using -31 is much “safer”, release and forget ?
One reason could be to hit a target at a particular impact point. Might not be of relevance in game, but might make a notable difference in reality. Laser is also more precise and you can correct/adjust targeting after weapons release.
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@regev said in Why choose GBU-10/24/27 & not GBU-31 for static targets ?:
GBU-31 have the /AP version and i can also use 2 bombs on a bunker. But with this bombs use i think it is more safe then the laser ones. Unless you say that -31 /AP is super weak comparing to 10/24/27 (AP) ?
No, friend. They are not weak. Same BLU-107, AP warhead - bunker-buster. Only difference is precision, CEP.
I don’t think GPS/GNSS will ever have Laser precision. -on the other hand, that kind precision is rarely needed with 1000kg . - through the window
It was needed where bunkers had small exit/ventilation shafts… hitting that with GPS from 20-30000 feet - impossible. -
@Scorpion82
I remember one (last) mission in “Janes F/A-18” - Baltic campaign (20? yrs ago) - where you had to destroy 4 silo doors with 2x -27’s(laser) for each plane in flight.Maaaan, did I restarted it some 15-20 times… dunno, can’t remember, was it hitbox (hit detection) or doors were on unequal terrain , slightly hovering in the air… so you (and 3 AI’s) had to “pinpoint” exact hit on the middle of not so large object - from 15-20kft .
And the problem was even bigger as there wasn’t save - you die - game over, fly a mission in campaign and failed - no reload.
(had to alt-tab , copy campaign state file then place it back in mission/campaign dir - hell, cheat, yes, but chances for that mission completed were like 1 in 1000, not just by your targeting , but also AI’s … )Failing just 1 silo in that mission - ICBM launch… game over.
Ah… good old days
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@regev said in Why choose GBU-10/24/27 & not GBU-31 for static targets ?:
The 10/24/27 force you to stay over the target while you are vulnerable to enemy fighters\AAA\AD, while using -31 is much “safer”, release and forget ?
You’re asking for BMS. Then yes. From KTO DB: 10/24/27 deals the same amount of damage as 31, if you compare the HE variants on one hand, and the AP variants on the other hand.
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I posted this message …hoping to see this improvement in BMS one day…
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@suhkoi69 said in Why choose GBU-10/24/27 & not GBU-31 for static targets ?:
I posted this message …hoping to see this improvement in BMS one day…
https://forum.falcon-bms.com/topic/22253/santa-s-wishlist-for-bms/322?_=1676643627475
Always click your link. One day’s it’s going to be way more delicate.